Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 Message: 17 Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:29:59 -0500 Melody <melody Re: Melody/Re: Karma Dear Melody, << Your questions, though addressed to me, were addressing Tim's words, rather than mine it seems. >> I like addressing myself to Tim, for the point i aim for, in addressing myself to him, seems to diffuses itself like light into a 'kadelioscope'. It always surprises me in the new parts of myself i discover from this multi color fire of the mind. Thank you Tim. << I say 'it seems', because although those were Tim's words you were addressing, your post is synchronistically, right on the spot for me, and if Tim doesn't mind, I would appreciate walking with you a bit here.... >> It's an honor for me, and i seem, these times, to be exploring 'synchronology', instead of cause and effect, as the mean to point to how i interact in the world. In other words synchronicity seems to be replacing the concept of will as a major 'definition' of the point of origin of my perception and action. you said: (snip) >Enjoying ones 'beliefs' can be a choice according to others 'beliefs'. I >like the word implant, in that matter, they seem to react to or create a >form of Truth unique to each, away from choice, creathing the perfect >illusion. > >The belief that others changed when ones come back is a strange belief >from the one who comes back. Is it not the one who left for a while who >changed? Or all? Or did he ever leave? Is there a change? Was there a >change? What is change, if not another belief? > >What is a belief? << Belief is a perception - self originating or not - that attaches itself to the 'eye', such that it becomes a 'tinting' of ones perceptual lens. >> Answering if the perception from which come belief is self originating or is not... Does not that question come to a need to be answered at one point? and the temporary answer we give, if self originating or not, a form of belief also? << As to change...hmmm.... I notice, when operating in the realm of the personality (which is still most all of the time <s>), that as other people's perceptions of me change...it inevitably, changes their behavior towards me....which then effects (though sometimes only subtly) not only my own behavior towards them, and my perception of them as well, but also my behavior and thoughts in general. >> Yes like for me simply writing you this email, we 'interface' in some way. Why/how do we interface? I'm projecting here, but most probably you feel it also Melody. As we read/write to each other a flow takes form between us, in one way or the other creating, for giving it a name, an 'interface'. Why does this interface comes to exist as we focus on each other? (this mean of focus being self originating or not). Is it because you make me less than the ALL, and me you less than the ALL so we create a unique interface that brings this deep flow of energy or change? Which is better, to see the ALL aspect of you or the Unique aspect you are in an act of perception? Why should one be better than the other? Better is the enemy of good said Voltaire, to quote someone << Thus WE, the collective 'we' in the engagement, have not changed - at the core - yet, perhaps due to one sometimes 'mistaken' perception, our total relationship has altered, and sometimes, our interactions with others has changed, as well. >> Is altering change? and if so change in relation to what? << So, perhaps the answer would be.. that which is eternal and truth has not changed....only the dreamscape, the landscape (or sandbox)...changes. >> Yes it does, when one is totally within the sand box. But those it change when you are totally the sand box, and the sand box is All or totally Unique or Beautiful or ...? << And when we finally 'see' this..... this dream dance we are living...we find that we are no longer subject to such change-ability. Antoine, your style of 'asking questions' suits me very well, and if you don't mind walking further (should more questions come to mind), I would appreciate them sincerely, as there seems to be something underneath all this for me which is seeking to see the light of day. >> Melody, I love dancing, mostly when i comes to flow like tai-chi, at one point change just vanish, the flow becomes pure grace, like exchanging with you. Thank you Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 1999 Report Share Posted April 23, 1999 Antoine <carrea > >Message: 17 > Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:29:59 -0500 > Melody <melody >Re: Melody/Re: Karma > >Dear Melody, > ><< Your questions, though addressed to me, were addressing Tim's words, >rather than mine it seems. >> > >I like addressing myself to Tim, for the point i aim for, in addressing >myself to him, seems to diffuses itself like light into a >'kadelioscope'. It always surprises me in the new parts of myself i >discover from this multi color fire of the mind. Thank you Tim. > Dear Antoine, Your post has prompted much in the way of inner observation. However, after reading almost 200 e-mails from these 2 lists this evening, I find I not only have no desire to speak, there is absolutely nothing I would want to hear. A very strange space for me, indeed. Thank you for your response to me, and know I feel enriched by it, and would like to come back to it once the pendulum swings me back that way. In appreciation, Melody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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