Guest guest Posted April 22, 1999 Report Share Posted April 22, 1999 ---------- >"jb" <kvy9 >< > > Re: Ahimisa Council >Thu, Apr 22, 1999, 5:32 PM > >"jb" <kvy9 > >> "Gloria Joy Greco" <lodpress >> >> >> ---------- >> >"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar >> >> >From Gloria >> > >> >> >"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar >> > >> >My Dear, Beautiful and Wonderful Friends, >> > >> > As you know a is embedded in the philosophy of >> Nonviolence. >> >The Sanskrit term for that is Ahimsa. Practice of Ahimsa means >> the practice >> >of non-injury. Spiritual practices to have True Insight into the >> nature of >> >the Self bear fruit when Nonviolence is the natural context. > >> From Jan >This is the crux of the matter: the well meant celebration in memory of >victims does the job of retaining the hatred. One shouldn't forget that in >some Mediterranean countries / areas vendetta still is committed. So I do >not even think of how the Serbs will translate their presently perceived >martyrdom into history. > >If Ahimsa has to mean something, it has to be offered as a complete package, >an alternative way of living that leaves no choice and will transform >society. In order to beaccepted, at least the social aspects of this package >must have a scientific basis. > >Jan GG I agree, it is an important discussion...perhaps out of it will come some resolve and inspiration from spirit. The thing is it needs to be more then a philosophy and a nice gesture which we see so often. It is like the thing with Mother Teresa, she took her mission down to the level of manifesting so that it is understood because it was seen and felt. This is the challenge. In a world where the forces are at war, only Divine Will can manifest the reality to give the Words...Ahimsa meaning. That is all I mean. > > >------ >Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? >http://www.ONElist.com >Come join one of the 130,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 1999 Report Share Posted April 23, 1999 > "Gloria Joy Greco" <lodpress >> GG > I agree, it is an important discussion...perhaps out of it will come some > resolve and inspiration from spirit. The thing is it needs to be > more then a > philosophy and a nice gesture which we see so often. It is like the thing > with Mother Teresa, she took her mission down to the level of > manifesting so > that it is understood because it was seen and felt. This is the challenge. > In a world where the forces are at war, only Divine Will can manifest the > reality to give the Words...Ahimsa meaning. That is all I mean. Both Gandhi and Mother Teresa are excellent examples. In fact, they are too good as few are able to follow their example. It is correct to say Ahimsa has to be introduced "bottom up" as an every day lifestyle that brings more happiness than an other lifestyle. Ahimsa means preserving existing species of plants and animals as well, whereas the present culture with its "control of nature" means everything not immediately commercially useful is disposable. It is likely that Ahimsa is the "mark" of a sustainable civilization. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 1999 Report Share Posted April 23, 1999 Hi Jan, I have had to ponder over your statement: "This is the crux of the matter: the well meant celebration in memory of victims does the job of retaining the hatred" It makes sense to refrain from celebrating, but it also makes sense to me to remember. My sense of remembering the holocaust is to keep in mind that doing nothing is not always an answer. That hoping that it will stop sooner or later without intervention is sometimes wishful thinking. Love, Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 1999 Report Share Posted April 23, 1999 > Judy Walden <judyw > > Hi Jan, > > I have had to ponder over your statement: > "This is the crux of the matter: the well meant celebration > in memory of > victims does the job of retaining the hatred" > > It makes sense to refrain from celebrating, but it also > makes sense to me to remember. My sense of remembering the > holocaust is to keep in mind that doing nothing is not > always an answer. That hoping that it will stop sooner or > later without intervention is sometimes wishful thinking. > > Love, > Judy Hi Judy, Perhaps you are aware of the fact that the conditions set by WW I were the cause of WW II. An additional cause was an economic one. I know too well that once the genie is out of the bottle it cannot be put back again. Although wars could be prevented, they are called great for the economy because everything that is destroyed has to be built up again from scratch and the losses are for the tax payers only. As on this planet the residing deity could be called greed driven market economy, one doesn't have to be a sage to predict the future and many did that already No reincarnation theory mentions what will happen with the disembodied souls when the planet becomes uninhabitable - only one SF book I read long ago does addresses the issue Ahimsa is primarily meant for the spiritually minded. When understood properly, it is a guidance during self-surrender. Yet there must have been a time where it was imbedded in an advanced society as in a primitive society, Ahimsa can be impractical. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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