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Ho hum. 60 or so new messages in the mailbox from satsangh alone.

Re:Tim, Re:violence, Re:hi timmy:), Re:gurgitate.

 

Honestly, I don't know whether I belong on this list either. Being without

a discernible tradition, without a guru -- why don't gurus ever venture

outside of California? -- and without a clue, I'm in a quandary.

 

"Ahimsa" is not an abstract ideal to be imitated, it is an expression of

insight or enlightenment. The latter word does not come easily to me any

more, as it is usually mixed up with projective fantasies about the future.

 

There is a Zen saying which I am bound to garble, because I cannot find the

book at the moment. It is about "entering the stream" wherever you happen

to be. That hit home today with special relevance. You can either dream

about becoming something someday other than you are now, or you can enter

the stream RIGHT HERE. Which means the Truth is always right in front of

you and you do not see it because you are always looking sideways --

looking for others' approval, looking for the right guru, looking at the

time on your watch.

 

Believe it or not, I am past the point of wanting to stir up conflict here.

But sadly, it seems that Tim G. had some important things to offer that are

being lost in the shuffle.

 

I have posted things here which were deeply important to me and they went

without comment. I suppose my rough-cut untutored quasi-Zen approach is

not what everyone else wants to hear.

 

I will wait around to see just how this shit hits the fan, and then I'm

probably better off giving more attention to important things like my

beloved cats.

 

.... Phil ...

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"Consciousness Unbound" <http://www.austintx.net/pbek/index.html>

"Uma_verse" <//Uma_verse>

[Guest guest]

Yes, cats are amazing gurus -- they teach such presence and suchness!!

And they know when to get rid of those nasty inner hairballs. H.

[Guest guest]

You can either dream

> about becoming something someday other than you are now

>

> I have posted things here which were deeply important to me and they went

> without comment. I suppose my rough-cut untutored quasi-Zen approach is

> not what everyone else wants to hear.

>

> I will wait around to see just how this shit hits the fan, and then I'm

> probably better off giving more attention to important things like my

> beloved cats.

 

If you write for others to respond, they won't.

If you have no guru...who is it that taught the guru?

I myself never get responses either, but that is the way I prefer

it. I just want to be left alone...allthough the list does have

some intresting drama every now and then. 8)

mike

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Mike D wrote:

>

> Mike D <mikdavis

>

> You can either dream

> > about becoming something someday other than you are now

> >

> > I have posted things here which were deeply important to me and they went

> > without comment. I suppose my rough-cut untutored quasi-Zen approach is

> > not what everyone else wants to hear.

> >

> > I will wait around to see just how this shit hits the fan, and then I'm

> > probably better off giving more attention to important things like my

> > beloved cats.

>

> If you write for others to respond, they won't.

> If you have no guru...who is it that taught the guru?

> I myself never get responses either, but that is the way I prefer

> it. I just want to be left alone...allthough the list does have

> some intresting drama every now and then. 8)

> mike

 

Hi Mike,

 

It's a problem with active lists and the fluid nature of the medium. I

have the same attitude as you. Sometimes I don't want a response. There

is such a thing as silent appreciation. One has to keep posting,

sometimes shout a little, pose a simple question.

 

Have you noticed how Gurus basically say the same extremely meaningful

things over and over again. Why? If the Guru has to say the same thing

over and over again, how much more do you and I have to repeat what is

meaningful to us?

 

Hang in there.

 

Jerry