Guest guest Posted April 24, 1999 Report Share Posted April 24, 1999 My e-mail was down for a few days so I hope I'm not offering "old news". This is a follow-up to our previous discussion on mental/spiritual illness. A couple of us had ventured that Milosevic had had a very traumatic childhood. I just read in our local paper that both of his parents committed suicide many years ago. What chance does a child have growing up with parents who hated themselves? Milosevic is an extreme example of one of those covertly depressed men who hide from their own terrible psychic pain by turning their aggression outward and striving for power over others. Our lack of esteem for our children is also what caused the tragedy at Columbine High. Of course we are all very sorry for the families of the murdered children. Understandably, they will have a difficult time forgiving the murderers and the murderers' own families, but forgive they must. Love begins with ourselves. Parents who haven't felt and acknowledged their own pain as undeserved will pass it on to their children. Until society fully encourages the rights of abused children and adult survivors to recognize their own suffering and be self-compassionate, we will continue to be faced with the consequences. Love, Rob http://www.go.com ______ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 1999 Report Share Posted April 24, 1999 Thanks for this information Rob. I also heard that Milosevic's wife is regarded as insane by a lot of people. A lot of pain there... One of my favourite quotes: "If we could read the secret history of our enemies we should find in each man's life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility. ~ Longfellow Love, Gill Allspirit Website - Spiritual poetry, quotations and lyrics http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/gilleardley/ Your only treasures are those which you carry in your heart. ~Demophilus - Rob Rinne <breadcasters < > 24 April 1999 17:25 Mr. Milosevic > Rob Rinne <breadcasters > > > My e-mail was down for a few days so I hope I'm not offering "old news". > > This is a follow-up to our previous discussion on mental/spiritual illness. A couple of us had ventured that Milosevic had had a very traumatic childhood. I just read in our local paper that both of his parents committed suicide many years ago. What chance does a child have growing up with parents who hated themselves? Milosevic is an extreme example of one of those covertly depressed men who hide from their own terrible psychic pain by turning their aggression outward and striving for power over others. > > Our lack of esteem for our children is also what caused the tragedy at Columbine High. Of course we are all very sorry for the families of the murdered children. Understandably, they will have a difficult time forgiving the murderers and the murderers' own families, but forgive they must. Love begins with ourselves. Parents who haven't felt and acknowledged their own pain as undeserved will pass it on to their children. Until society fully encourages the rights of abused children and adult survivors to recognize their own suffering and be self-compassionate, we will continue to be faced with the consequences. > > Love, > > Rob > > > http://www.go.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 1999 Report Share Posted April 24, 1999 > Rob Rinne <breadcasters > > > My e-mail was down for a few days so I hope I'm not offering "old news". > > This is a follow-up to our previous discussion on > mental/spiritual illness. A couple of us had ventured that > Milosevic had had a very traumatic childhood. I just read in our > local paper that both of his parents committed suicide many years > ago. What chance does a child have growing up with parents who > hated themselves? Life in the former communist countries never was easy. Both parents had to work and in a dictatorship one can never speak out. Communist society was rather chilly and the strangest thing I ever experienced was a Bulgarian police-commissioner who apologized not being able to speak more than 10 minutes to me because it would turn both of us to into suspects of the secret police. So there have to be many more traumas in former communist countries and one of the indicators is the ruthlessness of the Russian maffia. Milosevic is an extreme example of one of > those covertly depressed men who hide from their own terrible > psychic pain by turning their aggression outward and striving for > power over others. > > Our lack of esteem for our children is also what caused the > tragedy at Columbine High. Of course we are all very sorry for > the families of the murdered children. Understandably, they will > have a difficult time forgiving the murderers and the murderers' > own families, but forgive they must. Love begins with ourselves. > Parents who haven't felt and acknowledged their own pain as > undeserved will pass it on to their children. Until society > fully encourages the rights of abused children and adult > survivors to recognize their own suffering and be > self-compassionate, we will continue to be faced with the consequences. > > Love, > > Rob It is likely there will be more of these cases. For instance, I remember an investigation about how children are experiencing violence on TV. Violence in cartoons like Tom and Jerry was recognized as "funny because it is unreal" but movies for adults weren't. I vaguely remember cases where youngsters had imitated a murder, played in a horror movie. The very fact that children have to mind 'their own business' because both parents are having a busy job can be seen as a neglect that some children will interpret as abuse. When the parents don't have a harmonious relationship, things will only get worse. It would be wise to change society so children can have the attention and love they are entitled to. But in democracies where the majority will vote for their wallet this is wishful thinking. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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