[iam] The Nature of Realization

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On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:02:37 -0400 "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)"

<hluthar writes:

>"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar

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>jodyr [jodyr]

>Wednesday, April 28, 1999 12:19 PM

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>This is why bhakti with its attendant surrender is the best path

>(IMO).

>You just give up wanting realization and concentrate on wanting total

>and complete blissful surrender.

>

>Harsha: Wise words indeed. But I wonder whether one can just give up

>wanting

>Realization. Probably one cannot give up wanting any "want" until the

>wanting has waned. One can certainly concentrate on wanting "total and

>complete blissful surrender." Perhaps that is helpful as you suggest.

>The

>fundamental issue is the "wanting." Surrender happens when the wanting

>has waned or has been suspended, or one simply has become completely

>indifferent

>to all wanting. In other words, one has become "wanted" out. It

>happens when

>you have been waiting and waiting and waiting. Waiting can be a form

>of doing also. Then it is a long wait. You might be doing anything.

>Meditation,

>Yoga, Pranayama, etc. These are all essentially forms of waiting. And

>waiting can be helpful. It tires you out. It is Grace that finally

>makes us

>so indifferent to any "seeking" or "wanting", that we forget what we

>had been waiting for.

 

We might as well forget any

notion of "what we had been

waiting for" since it is

literally unimaginable, far

beyond the reach (let alone

grasp) of thought anyway!

>Here the Primal Being Reveals It Self as Eternal, as

>the very Core of our existence, being Existence It Self. To enter the

>Kingdom of

>Heaven one must be completely naked and bereft of all things. There is

>no path to this entrance because there is no where else to go.

>

Thank you, Jodyji and

Harshacharya, I revel in your

expression. I would say, Jody,

that bhakti "is the best path"

if one is by natural propensity

a bhakta, just as gyani "is the

best path" if if one is by

nature attuned to discernment

and karma yoga "is the best

path" if one's inclination is

toward service without worldly

recompense. As Harsha points

out, it all comes down to grace

and all of our various yogas,

meditations, practices, and

practiced non-practices amount

to marking time -- at most we

are somehow made more ready for

the eternal moment of surrender.

It is clear from here that

Jody's bhakti has done that,

since grace itself is beyond and

without cause, unbidden and

unearned, a gift.

 

 

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