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>Self-consciousness is the natural dynamism of the non-dual

>Siva-consciousness; it is its "eternal vibration". This is the state ofl

>the pure "I am." When Siva, out of His (Her) freedom, spontaneously

>manifests Himself as the world, the "I am" becomes "I am this."

"This," or

>the object, exists only when the world arises, but "I am" is always there,

>irrespective of Creation.

 

This is very clear. Thanks. The rest was marginally clear as words mean

different things to the experiencer. Basically, this is what I was saying

about the transcendent and the immanent and how they can coexist once the I

am is firmly established.

Also, I very much like your poem. Thanks again, Tamra

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>And from Madhya:

 

 

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Friends;

 

For many on the spiritual path, self-realization is not a discarding or

removing, but a recognizing. Here is a passage that examines this

principle:

 

"The ultimate Reality (Shiva) of Kashmir Shaivism is the pure nondual

Absolute, and yet Shiva is a person--the Absolute Person. The Advaitin may

question the compatibility of personality with Absoluteness. He may argue

that claiming that Shiva is a person means Shiva is limited to one

particular form and is cut off from the rest of the universe. In other

words, personality presupposes duality. In answer to this I could point out

that the same argument is advanced against the compatibility of

self-consciousness with Absoluteness... Shiva is a Person because Siva has

self-consciousness. The self-consciousness of Shiva is not like the limited

"I-consciousness" of the individual in which one differentiates oneself from

others. The Divine "I" is the absolute or perfect "I" which incorporates

everything within its bosom. When Shiva is completely alone--the one

without a second--even then self-consciousness means being in oneself. Even

in the state of the pure nonduality of Shiva, self-consciousness is possible

by virtue of the natural inner dynamism, (kriya, vimarsa, spanda, or

shakti), of Siva.

 

Self-consciousness is the natural dynamism of the non-dual

Siva-consciousness; it is its "eternal vibration". This is the state ofl

the pure "I am." When Siva, out of His (Her) freedom, spontaneously

manifests Himself as the world, the "I am" becomes "I am this."

"This," or

the object, exists only when the world arises, but "I am" is always there,

irrespective of Creation.

 

Here it should be made clear that personality is not the same as

individuality. Individuality is the sense of the ego, which is limited and

which differentiates the "I" from the rest of the world. Individuality has

two characteristics: namely, (a) self-consciousness and (b) differentiation

of oneself from others. But self-consciousness alone means personality. It

may or may not adopt individuality, which has the sense of differentiation

of oneself from others, then it becomes individuality. But it need not do

so. There can be self-consciousness as the awareness of one's own existence

without the awareness of others. Personality is thus wider than

individuality, which may or may not be part of personality. (Mishra, The

Central Philosophy of Saivism, pp 124-125)

 

And from Madhya:

 

 

 

 

 

The Song Alone

 

 

 

I am the opera buffoon

in love with the sensuous

passion of my own Voice,

the tittilating sensation of

a Sound belted from

the heated vibratto of

my Divine Heart

bursting into song--

 

absolute and complete

in myself;

never fearing fear:

death does not exist-

nor dwelling in doubt-

for when nothing is

eaten and all consumed,

only immortality remains

where lust yearned and

hunger failed.

 

And so, surge forth,

my fabulous Voice,

free from constraint,

sated with illumination and

summoned to sing by

the Song alone.

 

 

 

Madhya Nandi

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