Reincarnation, Karma, etc... , Read -theWhitePaper

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>Re: Reincarnation, Karma, etc... , Read

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>Sat, 8 May 1999 11:35:45 +0100

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>James Clearfield :

> > The intention behind your ever-well wisher is that first you can realize

> > that you're not your body and to solve your own question then "who am

> > I?" and free yourself from the bondage of samsara and reunite with the

> > supreme personality of Godhead...

> >

> > http/www.pagoo.com/me.asap?4153886791

>

>Jan:

>

>Bondage and liberation are opposites. Samsara and nirvana are opposites.

>Tat

>tvam asi (Thou art That) means +you+ are beyond all pairs of opposites. How

>can cold be experienced? Because of the experience of heat. Every

>experience

>is based on opposites like beautiful/ugly, high/low etc. When it is seen

>that experience is always about a pair of opposites and it becomes a bit

>like "the same old song", one might ask, "who is the experiencer"?

>

>There are many roads to find this out. The classical roads are a joy, when

>compared to "the same old song, or worldly life as usual". An analogy is a

>dog, gnawing on the legs of chairs. When it has gotten hold of juicy bones,

>it will forget gnawing on the legs of chairs completely (or just discard

>it).

>

>The classical roads often are called 'roads to liberation'. When liberation

>has been 'attained', it becomes obvious that there never was bondage nor

>liberation, samsara nor nirvana. One's real nature has no opposites - how

>can opposites be perceived, other than from a 'position' without opposites?

>

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The intention behind your ever-well wisher is that first you can realize

that you're not your body and to solve your own question then "who am

I?" and free yourself from the bondage of samsara and reunite with the

supreme personality of Godhead...

 

http/www.pagoo.com/me.asap?4153886791

[Guest guest]

James Clearfield :

> The intention behind your ever-well wisher is that first you can realize

> that you're not your body and to solve your own question then "who am

> I?" and free yourself from the bondage of samsara and reunite with the

> supreme personality of Godhead...

>

> http/www.pagoo.com/me.asap?4153886791

 

Jan:

 

Bondage and liberation are opposites. Samsara and nirvana are opposites. Tat

tvam asi (Thou art That) means +you+ are beyond all pairs of opposites. How

can cold be experienced? Because of the experience of heat. Every experience

is based on opposites like beautiful/ugly, high/low etc. When it is seen

that experience is always about a pair of opposites and it becomes a bit

like "the same old song", one might ask, "who is the experiencer"?

 

There are many roads to find this out. The classical roads are a joy, when

compared to "the same old song, or worldly life as usual". An analogy is a

dog, gnawing on the legs of chairs. When it has gotten hold of juicy bones,

it will forget gnawing on the legs of chairs completely (or just discard

it).

 

The classical roads often are called 'roads to liberation'. When liberation

has been 'attained', it becomes obvious that there never was bondage nor

liberation, samsara nor nirvana. One's real nature has no opposites - how

can opposites be perceived, other than from a 'position' without opposites?