Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 On Mon, 10 May 1999 09:10:45 John Thomas wrote: >>Well, Deborah, I am happy that you view the vows with >>such enthusiasm. >>I personally won't take the vows >>(if I ever do it) with eagerness. > >Who is this "I" that takes vows? >How are "others" separate from oneself? >How do "I" save "others" if "others" and "I" are not separate? >What is there to be "saved" from? Are these rhetorical questions or just an attempt at forcing certain thought patterns on others ? Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 John Thomas [treebeard] Monday, May 10, 1999 12:11 PM Re: wonderful guest John Thomas <treebeard Who is this "I" that takes vows? How are "others" separate from oneself? How do "I" save "others" if "others" and "I" are not separate? What is there to be "saved" from? Regards, John Thomas Harsha: Good point. All questions ultimately point inwards. Who raises these questions? Who is asking? If "I" and "others" are not separate then why not save the perceived "others." Is the decision to not act more enlightened than the one to act. How can it be so? Surely the truth does not lie in acting or not acting but in Being despite acting or not acting. One will act and can only act according to one's karmic nature. Being permeates all Doing and remains independent of it. Self is not limited by acting and it does grow large or strong by not acting. It is only What It Is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 >>>Well, Deborah, I am happy that you view the vows with >>>such enthusiasm. >>>I personally won't take the vows >>>(if I ever do it) with eagerness. >> >>Who is this "I" that takes vows? >>How are "others" separate from oneself? >>How do "I" save "others" if "others" and "I" are not separate? >>What is there to be "saved" from? > >Are these rhetorical questions or just an attempt at >forcing certain thought patterns on others ? > >Amanda. Who's asking? kaivalya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 On Mon, 10 May 1999 09:20:14 -0700 "Amanda Erhart" <mumblecat writes: >"Amanda Erhart" <mumblecat > > >On Mon, 10 May 1999 09:10:45 John Thomas wrote: > >>>Well, Deborah, I am happy that you view the vows with >>>such enthusiasm. >>>I personally won't take the vows >>>(if I ever do it) with eagerness. >> >>Who is this "I" that takes vows? >>How are "others" separate from oneself? >>How do "I" save "others" if "others" and "I" are not separate? >>What is there to be "saved" from? > >Are these rhetorical questions or just an attempt at >forcing certain thought patterns on others ? > They are exactly as you receive them, Amanda -- the writer's intent is less important than the process that led your question. Why restrict that question to only two possibilities, both of which appear to be heavily inferential -- especially the latter alternative of "forcing?" http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm m(_ _)m _ _________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 >Who is this "I" that takes vows? >How are "others" separate from oneself? >How do "I" save "others" if "others" and "I" are not separate? >What is there to be "saved" from? > >Regards, >John Thomas > >Harsha: Good point. All questions ultimately point inwards. Who raises these >questions? Who is asking? > >If "I" and "others" are not separate then why not save the perceived >"others." Is the decision to not act more enlightened than the one to act. >How can it be so? Surely the truth does not lie in acting or not acting but >in Being despite acting or not acting. One will act and can only act >according to one's karmic nature. Being permeates all Doing and remains >independent of it. Self is not limited by acting and it does grow large or >strong by not acting. It is only What It Is. Sounds good to "me". kaivalya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) wrote: > Harsha: Good point. All questions ultimately point inwards. Who raises these > questions? Who is asking? > > If "I" and "others" are not separate then why not save the perceived > "others." Is the decision to not act more enlightened than the one to act. > How can it be so? Surely the truth does not lie in acting or not acting but > in Being despite acting or not acting. One will act and can only act > according to one's karmic nature. Being permeates all Doing and remains > independent of it. Self is not limited by acting and it does grow large or > strong by not acting. It is only What It Is. Marcia: Harsha, I have a question. I have carried a statement around for years trying to verify it. The statement is ...Your Being attracts your Life. What do you think that means and do you think it is true or not? Or sometimes true and sometimes not? Or....heck we could do a survey. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 On Mon, 10 May 1999, John Thomas wrote: > > Who is this "I" that takes vows? > How are "others" separate from oneself? > How do "I" save "others" if "others" and "I" are not separate? > What is there to be "saved" from? who gets cold in winter, prefers ice cream to spinach, watches the blue sky and listens to the eagle cry Kyi Kyi Kyi! --janpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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