Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 jb [kvy9] Sunday, May 09, 1999 8:43 AM Re: Gender and expressing experience "jb" <kvy9 > "Gloria Joy Greco" <lodpress > > Gloria: > I certainly agree with this post about eastern teachings being focused > on the male as is most spiritual teachings. Perhaps what is > missing that is > now coming through is the female energies of the Divine Mother. > Shiva/Shakti > is certainly the same in male and female allowing the same process to > operate throughout the awakening. What is needed now isn't dominance but > rather harmony and balance all around, don't you agree? Jan: Apparently some material has to be re-written; when it is acknowledged there are gender-inconsistencies, it means the original material contains errors. For instance, brahmacarya is a genderless practice but the theory behind urdhva-retas obviously is wrong Harsha: You are right Jan, unless the broader picture is taken into account. There are many traditions where the primary focus of concentration is on the Sahasarara. My earlier path was such as well. It is believed in the yogic traditions that vitality is present all over the body, the organs, and in the blood. When this vitality is conserved through restraints of various types, it accumulates in the brain the form of Ojas (Both for men and women). An increase in Ojas allows for sustained stays in Superconscious states, both for men and women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 Gloria: Also it comes to me that it doesn't really matter what is written. It is the experience that brings clarity, the books may or may not reflect this but it doesn't really mean anything. ---------- >"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar >< > >Re: Gender and Ojas >Mon, May 10, 1999, 10:13 AM > > "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > > > jb [kvy9] > Sunday, May 09, 1999 8:43 AM > > Re: Gender and expressing experience > > "jb" <kvy9 > >> "Gloria Joy Greco" <lodpress >> >> Gloria: >> I certainly agree with this post about eastern teachings being focused >> on the male as is most spiritual teachings. Perhaps what is >> missing that is >> now coming through is the female energies of the Divine Mother. >> Shiva/Shakti >> is certainly the same in male and female allowing the same process to >> operate throughout the awakening. What is needed now isn't dominance but >> rather harmony and balance all around, don't you agree? > > Jan: > Apparently some material has to be re-written; when it is acknowledged there > are gender-inconsistencies, it means the original material contains errors. > For instance, brahmacarya is a genderless practice but the theory behind > urdhva-retas obviously is wrong > > Harsha: You are right Jan, unless the broader picture is taken into account. > There are many traditions where the primary focus of concentration is on the > Sahasarara. My earlier path was such as well. It is believed in the yogic > traditions that vitality is present all over the body, the organs, and in > the blood. When this vitality is conserved through restraints of various > types, it accumulates in the brain the form of Ojas (Both for men and > women). An increase in Ojas allows for sustained stays in Superconscious > states, both for men and women. > > > > ------ > Got an opinion? > > Make it count! Sign up for the ONElist Weekly Survey now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 On Mon, 10 May 1999, Gloria Joy Greco wrote: > "Gloria Joy Greco" <lodpress > > Gloria: > Also it comes to me that it doesn't really matter what is written. It is the > experience that brings clarity, the books may or may not reflect this but it > doesn't really mean anything. janpa the weirdo> i agree. some things have to be seen to be understood me thinks. what may sound like nonsense to one, may have someone else laughing in hysterics. Sometimes i think a sign of enlightenment is the foundational development of a good sense of humour. otherwise life is pretty grim and tedious no? sad too sometimes. lots of saddness and tears out there. anger too, because of them. only thing that makes sense is to laugh to stop making more. babbling, ---me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 Debora A. Orf wrote: > janpa the weirdo> i agree. some things have to be seen to be understood me > thinks. what may sound like nonsense to one, may have someone else > laughing in hysterics. Sometimes i think a sign of enlightenment is the > foundational development of a good sense of humour. otherwise life is > pretty grim and tedious no? sad too sometimes. lots of saddness and tears > out there. anger too, because of them. only thing that makes sense is to > laugh to stop making more. Marcia: Often I find that I pass through humor on the way to enlightenment. For example..... Once when "upset" with my teenager I thought ..."If I knew you were going to turn out like this I would never have had you." I felt that way too. It wasn't at all funny. Then I heard the thought. I love to pay attention to my thoughts. Lots of time I don't catch them until they are just a mere echo. It is better than watching a soap opera or even Seinfeld. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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