Guest guest Posted May 13, 1999 Report Share Posted May 13, 1999 Harsha shared: > Some years ago I had been initiated into two mantras and was enjoined to > repeat them a minimum number of times every day. I had been doing it > punctiliously, but now after entering the Ashrama, I had no mind to the > mantras or do any kind of formal worship. After a few days I was seized with > the fear of incurring sin by failing to observe the instructions on my > initiation. So I put it to Sri Bhagavan himself, making a clean breast of my > default. Sri Bhagavan smiled and said, "Just because you have done so much > of japa, its merit has brought you here. Why should you now fear while > enjoying the fruit of the japa ?" > > I had also at this time a more serious trouble. I had been practising breath > control ( pranayama ) as taught by Swami Ramtirtha in his works. There came > a stage when I felt a terrible sensation as though my head would crack and > break into pieces. Then I stopped doing it, but every day the sensation was > recurring at the time of practice and the fear was growing that disaster was > imminent. So, at dead of night, when Bhagavan was alone, I approached him > with my tale. He said laughing, "What! Again you are seized with fear! These > are the usual experiences of people who do yogic exercises without the > immediate guidance of a Guru, but having come to me, why should you fear ?" > Then Sri Bhagavan added in an undertone: "Next time you get that sensation, > you think of me and you will be all right." From that moment to this I have > never felt it again. Gloria This really shows the power of mind and fear doesn't it? And once that is put to rest through a being that is realized then it is no more. Of course you had the faith and trust in the Guru which also erased the fear and thought. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 1999 Report Share Posted May 13, 1999 Hi Gloria. The sharing was not from me. I was quoting one of Ramana Maharshi's devotees. His name is G. V. Subbaramayya and was on the post that I sent. I simply selected portions of what he said. Harsha "Gloria Joy Greco" <lodpress Harsha shared: > Some years ago I had been initiated into two mantras and was enjoined to > repeat them a minimum number of times every day. I had been doing it > punctiliously, but now after entering the Ashrama, I had no mind to the > mantras or do any kind of formal worship. After a few days I was seized with > the fear of incurring sin by failing to observe the instructions on my > initiation. So I put it to Sri Bhagavan himself, making a clean breast of my > default. Sri Bhagavan smiled and said, "Just because you have done so much > of japa, its merit has brought you here. Why should you now fear while > enjoying the fruit of the japa ?" > > I had also at this time a more serious trouble. I had been practising breath > control ( pranayama ) as taught by Swami Ramtirtha in his works. There came > a stage when I felt a terrible sensation as though my head would crack and > break into pieces. Then I stopped doing it, but every day the sensation was > recurring at the time of practice and the fear was growing that disaster was > imminent. So, at dead of night, when Bhagavan was alone, I approached him > with my tale. He said laughing, "What! Again you are seized with fear! These > are the usual experiences of people who do yogic exercises without the > immediate guidance of a Guru, but having come to me, why should you fear ?" > Then Sri Bhagavan added in an undertone: "Next time you get that sensation, > you think of me and you will be all right." From that moment to this I have > never felt it again. Gloria This really shows the power of mind and fear doesn't it? And once that is put to rest through a being that is realized then it is no more. Of course you had the faith and trust in the Guru which also erased the fear and thought. > > > > ------ Did you know ONElist has over 300 Star Wars lists? http://www.ONElist.com Join one today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 1999 Report Share Posted May 13, 1999 > "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > > Hi Gloria. The sharing was not from me. I was quoting one of Ramana > Maharshi's devotees. His name is G. V. Subbaramayya and was on the post that > I sent. I simply selected portions of what he said.\ GG Ok, it is still wonderful. I must have missed something. > > Harsha > > "Gloria Joy Greco" <lodpress > > Harsha shared: > >> Some years ago I had been initiated into two mantras and was enjoined to >> repeat them a minimum number of times every day. I had been doing it >> punctiliously, but now after entering the Ashrama, I had no mind to the >> mantras or do any kind of formal worship. After a few days I was seized > with >> the fear of incurring sin by failing to observe the instructions on my >> initiation. So I put it to Sri Bhagavan himself, making a clean breast of > my >> default. Sri Bhagavan smiled and said, "Just because you have done so much >> of japa, its merit has brought you here. Why should you now fear while >> enjoying the fruit of the japa ?" >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2001 Report Share Posted January 31, 2001 > murrkis > > I have been wondering, also, about how the emulation of Ramana Maharshi can > in any way be practical. Anyone who wishes to respond to this question is > invited to give hard evidence direct from their own life. I'm talking about > jobs, family, fights with the spouse. I'm not talking about a review of > what Ramana Maharshi said. jess: I have great love and respect for the form, Ramana Maharshi. It has never been an issue of emulating him as his was a unique destiny to be played out. Rather it has been the message of "Silence" that has been significant; when there are gaps in thought. I hold down a daily job in which there is interaction with others. I have two children, no spouse and challenges in life arise. But life has seemingly taken me to the place where there is a continuum happening in the watching of what is being played out. The more the watching, the more the thoughts quiet, the more 'being held in peace' happens. murkiss: > Harsha gently and in a round about way has pointed to the ability to remain > in a state of constant equanimity and awareness of (). Acceptable. But I > still don't know how this is applied in a practical sense. > jess: The question of practicality, as well as other questions arose along the way but eventually were seen for what all thoughts are; mental disturbances obscuring the peace that is always present. A critical mass of physical and/or psychological suffering is what eventually led to the seeking of the removal of the suffering. No body or mind desires suffering. The way that it seemed to eventually get applied in a practical sense was in the recognition that the mind/thought was the source of suffering. There are many methods, as Ramana said, a thorn to remove a thorn and he advocated Self-enquiry as a method to bring gaps in the thinking process. There are others. But eventually, through Grace, gaps in thinking happened, seeking the removal of suffering dropped, and not going up and down with what goes up and down, happened ( but not always); witnessing the surfing of life in acceptance of whatever jessica appears to go through. murkiss: > Furthermore, I still don't understand if this is real or right. > > Where does passion sit in the devotees day to day? > jess: passion may arise and can be enjoyed as well as witnessed. Enjoyment of life has been enhanced. I am happier than I have ever been while the seesawing of life continues. murkiss: Where does the body? > jess: the body is seen for what it is and after disidentification with the body was set in motion; the possibility of enjoying peace in the midst of whatever the body may be experiencing may take place. murkiss: Where does the dealing with injustice? > jess: seeing this as just one more thing appearing on stage in the theatre of life murkiss: Oh, and what of sex and pregnancy and birth and life? > jess: all these also appear ( but no more pregnancy for me) and are enjoyed more than ever murkiss: This world as we know it, the world that fed the master, would crumble if > we all played out his life in our own. > jess: we were not all meant to play out his life in our own. This world is not what it appears to be. It's all the Self disguised in a myriad of forms appearing and disappearing from the stage called life murkiss: > stirring the pot, > not feeling a great deal of equanimity, > not feeling the need to, > Nina > > Oh, where could we be without this notion of enlightenment? /lament > jess: possibly at peace love, jessica ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _________ > Well said Nina. Will pass it on to as well. > > I have not much to add nor do I have any special answers to your questions. > The Ramana Maharshi post was to give information on the Sage, and not to > hold him up as a model to emulate. The Sage of Arunachala taught freedom to > be who you are in your natural surroundings. Our Being Is Freedom, > regardless of our situation or circumstances. > > We are not put on this earth to copy others. We make our own way with the > passion of our drives and the urges of the heart, and seek to give love and > receive love for the fulfillment of our unique destiny. The path is unknown. > It is carved out by simply walking and living life and embracing the present > with awareness in gratitude. > > /join > > > > > > Love > Harsha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 murrkis [murrkis] Monday, April 30, 2001 7:24 AM Kundalini-Gateway Re: [K-list] Ramana Maharshi I have been wondering, also, about how the emulation of Ramana Maharshi can in any way be practical. Anyone who wishes to respond to this question is invited to give hard evidence direct from their own life. I'm talking about jobs, family, fights with the spouse. I'm not talking about a review of what Ramana Maharshi said. Harsha gently and in a round about way has pointed to the ability to remain in a state of constant equanimity and awareness of (). Acceptable. But I still don't know how this is applied in a practical sense. Furthermore, I still don't understand if this is real or right. Where does passion sit in the devotees day to day? Where does the body? Where does the dealing with injustice? Oh, and what of sex and pregnancy and birth and life? This world as we know it, the world that fed the master, would crumble if we all played out his life in our own. stirring the pot, not feeling a great deal of equanimity, not feeling the need to, Nina Oh, where could we be without this notion of enlightenment? /lament _________ Well said Nina. Will pass it on to as well. I have not much to add nor do I have any special answers to your questions. The Ramana Maharshi post was to give information on the Sage, and not to hold him up as a model to emulate. The Sage of Arunachala taught freedom to be who you are in your natural surroundings. Our Being Is Freedom, regardless of our situation or circumstances. We are not put on this earth to copy others. We make our own way with the passion of our drives and the urges of the heart, and seek to give love and receive love for the fulfillment of our unique destiny. The path is unknown. It is carved out by simply walking and living life and embracing the present with awareness in gratitude. /join Love Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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