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On Fri, 14 May 1999 08:42:54 Debora A. Orf wrote:

>"Debora A. Orf" <dorf01

>When i first met Rinpoche i was surprised because his face had changed.

>Other than that, i've not myself had much past life memory stuff. altho

>they tell me at certain levels that comes pretty fast.

 

At what levels would that be ? :)

 

I've had all my past lives fall down on my head

like cardboard boxes through an attic trapdoor.

 

At one point I thought "Gee, if I only put my mind to

it, I might be able to remember every single thing

done and thought in all past lives, this and the

next." That was pretty scary.

 

Well, in fact, that was how K rose, in order to

remember the past.

 

Have anyone else had experiences about this ?

 

Harsha, with your long familiarity with K and

awakenings in others, what have you seen with

K and remembrance of the past ?

 

Best regards,

 

Amanda.

 

 

 

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>I've had all my past lives fall down on my head

>like cardboard boxes through an attic trapdoor.

>At one point I thought "Gee, if I only put my mind to

>it, I might be able to remember every single thing

>done and thought in all past lives, this and the

>next." That was pretty scary.

>Well, in fact, that was how K rose, in order to

>remember the past.

>Have anyone else had experiences about this ?

 

Hello,

 

Any past life experiences I've had have been spontaneous as has any movement

of K - I have not tried to pull up past life recall. I'm with Harsha on

this - it is too easy to move into imagination. What I realize is any past

life experiences that were seen worked as a vehicle to my understanding of

my samskaras or 'issues and sometimes the connection was seen immediately

and sometimes later. For instance, once I saw myself committing suicide

through drowning. For much of this life I had always had a strong desire to

simply put an end to my life. At the time of this 'vision' I was not

thinking at all of suicide.....however, the issue was to rear it's head

again but when it did I was able to see that such a solution was not a

solution at all as I had already done that and accomplished nothing by the

act. Often relationships in this current life were given clarity through

some past life scenes. I've come to the conclusion that such recall is

'grace' and will happen to help us reach "Self". I guess that "self' does

not need to see majesty or human power it appears that I was never

Cleopatra, Alexander the Great or Joan of Arc :).

 

Linda

>Best regards,

>Amanda.

 

 

 

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Gloria:

I do agree with Linda on this. Unless you are specifically lead into past

life memory I would leave it alone. A time will come when it will come up on

its own and when it does it is for purpose. Until that time, ego will

manipulate the process and just give you one more thing to think about. When

spirit does it, you have no choise and no thought involved in the making. It

is just there.

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> Any past life experiences I've had have been spontaneous as has any movement

> of K - I have not tried to pull up past life recall. I'm with Harsha on

> this - it is too easy to move into imagination. What I realize is any past

> life experiences that were seen worked as a vehicle to my understanding of

> my samskaras or 'issues and sometimes the connection was seen immediately

> and sometimes later. For instance, once I saw myself committing suicide

> through drowning. For much of this life I had always had a strong desire to

> simply put an end to my life. At the time of this 'vision' I was not

> thinking at all of suicide.....however, the issue was to rear it's head

> again but when it did I was able to see that such a solution was not a

> solution at all as I had already done that and accomplished nothing by the

> act. Often relationships in this current life were given clarity through

> some past life scenes. I've come to the conclusion that such recall is

> 'grace' and will happen to help us reach "Self". I guess that "self' does

> not need to see majesty or human power it appears that I was never

> Cleopatra, Alexander the Great or Joan of Arc :).

>

> Linda

>

>>Best regards,

>

>>Amanda.

>

>

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I have often entertained the idea that past lives is really

a form of recording sort of which anyone can tap into.

In other words the lives existed but they were not my

past life except in the context that at a certain level of

consciousness I share in all of it. So that when I think

I am experiencing a past life I am really tapping into a

level of consciousness in which time is simultaneous.

 

I have been told by people who have experienced past

life experiences that this way of looking at it is just not

correct.

 

I think the critical point is that my sense is that the experience

is happening right now in the present. Make any sense to

anyone else?

 

Marcia

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On Fri, 14 May 1999 11:23:39 -0700 Marcia Paul <jacpa

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>Marcia Paul <jacpa

>

>I have often entertained the idea that past lives is really

>a form of recording sort of which anyone can tap into.

>In other words the lives existed but they were not my

>past life except in the context that at a certain level of

>consciousness I share in all of it. So that when I think

>I am experiencing a past life I am really tapping into a

>level of consciousness in which time is simultaneous.

>

>I have been told by people who have experienced past

>life experiences that this way of looking at it is just not

>correct.

>

>I think the critical point is that my sense is that the experience

>is happening right now in the present. Make any sense to

>anyone else?

>

Nothing happens other than

in the present, if you

receive a "past life"

impression it's happening

right now or it's just

data, a memory being

retrieved and examined in

the present.

 

 

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