Guest guest Posted May 14, 1999 Report Share Posted May 14, 1999 On Fri, 14 May 1999 13:11:04 Debora A. Orf wrote: >Right now, is the summation of all experience and past lives too. I've >heard that to see one's past, look at one's present. If one is not so >happy or something, then something is wrong upstairs, >bad karmic habits, that need fixing. >Someone asked Rinpoche what he thought of god. He looked at each of us and >laughed a bit, and then said something like, 'you are god'. (i may be >remembering that wrong, but its the same sort of line as "Buddha is in >each being" i think, thats how i took it anyway.). What a wonderful story. )) Thanks for sharing, Deb. >like i said before, even tho i will say im not a theist, some >definitions of god that include this sort of formless fullness, form is >empty empty is form idea, im not so sure are different >from Sunyata. And the Tao ? >This list had been wonderful in crushing my ideas of how theism works. >Also i love reading about Guru devotion, as its so important on my path too. I can't get my head around guru devotion, but I listen closely to what ppl say. I have read the Kalama Sutras too closely. If I ever listened to what ppl said, I'd never end up anywhere and at least not here... Best regards, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 1999 Report Share Posted May 14, 1999 "Debora A. Orf" wrote: > like i said before, even tho i will say im not a theist, some > definitions of god that include this sort of formless fullness, form is > empty empty is form idea, im not so sure are different from Sunyata. (shrug) Who knows? > It bothered me tho, chatting with a Krishna devotee once. i asked 'well if > god is sparking you, how can you not say that at primordial reality level > you are not god?". he got a bit upset at me i think, i did not mean to do > that. You didn't. Truth did. > Some folks i think need that seperation idea. Yes, until one is ready. Expansion of ego boundary is like easing into hot water. > To take it away with non-dualistic logic causes them suffering. Non-dualistic logic? That's pretty funny. : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 1999 Report Share Posted May 14, 1999 "Debora A. Orf" wrote: > On Fri, 14 May 1999, David Bozzi wrote: > > > > Non-dualistic logic? > > That's pretty funny. : ) > > Actually i was quite serious, That's okay. I know a good healer. : ) > however it sounded . Have you looked into > the buddhist systems of prasangika madhamika? or sautantrika madhyamika? > (good grief i never know how to spell sanskrit terms!) Yes & no. Along my informal path I often find after the fact there's some funny indian or asian name describing an experience or inquiry. (i.e. samadhi, kundalini) and now Prasangika. (sounds like a really healthy herb) > cant explain them so well tho, as they are quite difficult to even know > the difference between Prasangika and Sautantrika. Prasangika's analogy is > sorta like: > > one sees something in the road, grows frightened, thinks "SNAKE!" then > comes up on to "snake" and goes "Phew--rope!". Where did snake and rope > come from? Did the object make itself a snake or did mind make a snake? > Why did mind make a rope? What is the basis for both of these, rope and > snake, and what foundations lead to a correct view of the object in the > grass? The *looking*. I could have just as easily run the other way as fast as possible and never have discovered the 'truth'. Can't resist posting this poem... Monster & Sharks Thoughts swim like fish at the surface as you drift out to sea where you think you see a dorsal fin slice through the water near where you tread ...but it was only me. I had my guppy suit on but was thought to be a shark by the shark-minded. ...and I was just wasting time waiting in line with my astral travel ticket (subtly faded like a ghost, no expiration date) when you shrieked and you shrieked as you saw me coming your wind tunnel of air blasting my hair straight back parallel to the street. Like a cloud in the sky in the way of the sun objectivity is a myth of some subjective mind. See when I was a child there was a monster who lived underneath my bed, held me prisoner with fear. Today it's no longer there and I did not get rid of anything... > its quite fun stuff It sure is! Have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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