Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Hi Tim. I had a completely unexpected and spontaneous kundalini awakening accompanied by "visions." At the time my only practice was a little t'ai-chi and a lot of ballet. I'd never heard of kundalini yoga and only knew about tantric art. If I hadn't had all the physical bells and whistles, I never would have believed what was happening to me. At this point, my spiritual "path" could not be more sober and ordinary; unless you knew me very well, you would not even know I was "on" one. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D. wrote: > > Hi Tim. I had a completely unexpected and spontaneous kundalini > awakening accompanied by "visions." At the time my only practice was a > little t'ai-chi and a lot of ballet. I'd never heard of kundalini yoga > and only knew about tantric art. If I hadn't had all the physical > bells and whistles, I never would have believed what was happening to > me. At this point, my spiritual "path" could not be more sober and > ordinary; unless you knew me very well, you would not even know I was > "on" one. Holly Good point. Isn't the body itself one of those bells and whistles? As an old salesman, we used another term: gingerbread. It's one thing to sell a car. It's another to sell a car with all the gingerbread. So you give the prospective purchaser a test drive in a car that has all the gingerbread. That may be what they need at a given point in their life. Eventually they see they don't need the gingerbread or the car. The car itself becomes gingerbread! For, yes, they had been brought into the proximity of the engine which runs so silent and smooth in this year's model, that it doesn't even exist. Therefore, what gingerbread? What car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Dharma wrote: > Hi Tim, > > >In other words, kundalini and tantra are popular for the same reason > >cocaine and heroin and marijuana and LSD are popular. They generate > > Is having active Kundalini really popular now? I'd like to hear more about > that!! Marcia: I am curious about this. It does seem that the "thing to have happened to you" these days is a kundalini awakening. It is sort of like swapping childbirth stories. It may be because it is a power thing and like all power things the power can be abused or used or just let be. To the extent that a person may have some real questions concerning what is happening to them then it is important to find some answers but the kind of attention that can be generated around something like kundalini probably distorts or detracts from the actual experience of it. So.....I think you are both right. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Kundalini has always been happening. Not necessarily under that name. Sometimes it's called crisis or mental breakdown or tragedy or chemical imbalance in the body or brain or disappointment or loss and so on. The time/space experience is all kundalini. We are simply redescribing this all encompassing evolutionary process of awakening. (there's another name). The story is constantly being revised to reflect our own expansiveness. It may have a new name tomorrow. Until... until... there's no longer a story to tell. David (story teller) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Hi Marcia, >I am curious about this. It does seem that the "thing to have >happened to you" these days is a kundalini awakening. It is >sort of like swapping childbirth stories. It may be because it >is a power thing and like all power things the power can be >abused or used or just let be. >snip< >So.....I think you are both right. :-) Um... there was no disagreement here. Tim said Kundalini is popular, and I asked to hear more about that. You're saying it's "the thing" now... can you tell me where this is? Is it widespread? In certain age groups? How come my kids don't know it's popular? Are they in the wrong part of the country? Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Gee, David, I can't agree with this. >Kundalini has always been happening. Not necessarily under that name. >Sometimes it's >called >crisis or mental breakdown or tragedy or chemical imbalance in the body or >brain or >disappointment or loss and so on. The time/space experience is all >kundalini. We are >simply redescribing this all encompassing evolutionary process of >awakening. (there's >another name). The story is constantly being revised to reflect our own >expansiveness. It >may have a new name tomorrow. I mean, in my life I've had crises and tragedies... yeah, chemical imbalances... disappointments, losses... yeah, a breakdown... but the experience of active, overt Kundalini is qualitatively different. It's energy moving in the body... flowing sometimes... jerking the body into orgasm/kriyas sometimes... When you've felt massive energy coming from the root of the spine and moving all the way up the spine to fill the head and go on out... and recycling to come up again right from the feet... you can never doubt that this is a physical happening. It's like, I wouldn't touch you with a live wire and then ask, "Isn't that just like any other crisis or disappointment in your life?" Kundalini is just as real and physical as what you would feel from that live wire. BTW, why are you citing all negative experiences as being examples of K.? Sure, some people have problems with K. - more so when they resist it - but my experience has been extremely positive. I love this body full of delicious, vibrating, throbbing energy!! I feel like in the rest of my life, my body wasn't completely awake. Now it's a different world, and I wouldn't go back for anything. Of course, I was fortunate that when my spiritual guru awakened my K., I was in a position where I didn't have to go out to work for a while... so I don't have to try to manage it with a job or going to school... in fact, I don't try to manage it at all... my guide does all the managing... spirit is in charge. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Dharma wrote: > Um... there was no disagreement here. Tim said Kundalini is popular, and > I asked to hear more about that. You're saying it's "the thing" now... > can you tell me where this is? Is it widespread? In certain age groups? > How come my kids don't know it's popular? Are they in the wrong part of > the country? Marcia: I can't speak for Tim really but maybe it isn't geographically popular but age-group popular. That would explain. Maybe hormonally things have to be in balance or something. Have you ever noticed teenager's swings? :-) > > > Love, > Dharma > > ------ > With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily... > > ...ONElist is THE place where the world talks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Hi Marcia, >>.... Tim said Kundalini is popular, and >> I asked to hear more about that. You're saying it's "the thing" now... >> can you tell me where this is? Is it widespread? In certain age groups? >> How come my kids don't know it's popular? Are they in the wrong part of >> the country? > >I can't speak for Tim really but maybe it isn't geographically popular >but age-group popular. That would explain. Maybe hormonally >things have to be in balance or something. Have you ever noticed >teenager's swings? :-) > Do you mean it's popular with teenagers? Or older... college age? Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Dharma wrote: > Gee, David, > > I can't agree with this. > > >Kundalini has always been happening. Not necessarily under that name. > >Sometimes it's > >called > >crisis or mental breakdown or tragedy or chemical imbalance in the body or > >brain or > >disappointment or loss and so on. The time/space experience is all > >kundalini. We are > >simply redescribing this all encompassing evolutionary process of > >awakening. (there's > >another name). The story is constantly being revised to reflect our own > >expansiveness. It > >may have a new name tomorrow. > > I mean, in my life I've had crises and tragedies... yeah, chemical > imbalances... disappointments, losses... yeah, a breakdown... but the > experience of active, overt Kundalini is qualitatively different. It's > energy moving in the body... flowing sometimes... jerking the body into > orgasm/kriyas sometimes... When you've felt massive energy coming from the > root of the spine and moving all the way up the spine to fill the head and > go on out... and recycling to come up again right from the feet... you > can never doubt that this is a physical happening. Hey Dharma. : ) That's fine. I've simply expanded what K is for me. My view certainly includes everything you've mentioned. > BTW, why are you citing all negative experiences as being examples of K.? I don't know that I have. Stick your hand in fire. It hurts! Is pain negative? Perhaps not, otherwise you'd burn your hand off. > Love, > Dharma You know I do. : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 1999 Report Share Posted May 22, 1999 > >Marcia: > >I can't speak for Tim really but maybe it isn't geographically popular >but age-group popular. That would explain. Maybe hormonally >things have to be in balance or something. Have you ever noticed >teenager's swings? :-) > >> >> You bet!! I suspect anything that dramatically shifts one's habitual relationship to the body can provide an opening for awakening energies -- hormones, illness, trauma, although it may be the other way around. I know I'm not the only one who was reminded of adolescence when life started to get very lively a few years ago! If kundalini is, at some level, responsible for all changes in consciousness, its presence in adolescence makes sense. What I don't understand is why so many of us felt aware in childhood and adolescence and then had to go into a semi-dormant state. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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