Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 On Fri, 21 May 1999 03:30:12 -0700 "Amanda Erhart" <mumblecat writes: >"Amanda Erhart" <mumblecat > > >On Thu, 20 May 1999 13:37:54 Tim Gerchmez wrote: > >>In other words, kundalini and tantra are popular for the same reason >>cocaine and heroin and marijuana and LSD are popular. They generate >>pleasurable physical experiences. In my (admittedly three- decades old) recollection, LSD didn't "generate pleasurable physical experiences," although there were some physical effects. >They are focused on the physical body, >>which most people identify themselves with and cannot see past. Again, the effect of LSD was not received as a primarily physical experience or even as (much of) a sensory alteration. > [snip] > >K actively works to prize you off of the karma >you carry. I have felt that as physical and spiritual >reality. > Now *that* sounds somewhat like (my long-ago experience with) LSD -- it acts as a "box-breaker" of ones conditioning, what remains after the box is broken depends on what conditioning (if any) is so durable as to survive the general sundering. [snip] http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm m(_ _)m _ _________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Hi Amanda. Your comments on Kundalini are appreciated. I'm passing your words on to my mother whose Kundalini has erupted full force at the ripe age of 72. Thanx, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Hi Bruce, >>K actively works to prize you off of the karma >>you carry. I have felt that as physical and spiritual >>reality. >> >Now *that* sounds somewhat >like (my long-ago experience >with) LSD -- it acts as a >"box-breaker" of ones >conditioning, what remains >after the box is broken >depends on what conditioning >(if any) is so durable as to >survive the general >sundering. There must be something to that. When I used to talk at high schools about meditation... and about levels of consciousness and moving among them, the audience was clearly divided into two groups... those who hadn't the foggiest idea of what I was talking about, and those who knew exactly what I was talking about... and the second group were kids who had used acid. I told them it takes longer to be able to do it without drugs, but it's a lot safer... and you can come out whenever you want to. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 On Fri, 21 May 1999 15:45:00 -0400 David Bozzi <david.bozzi writes: >Bruce Morgen wrote: > >> On Fri, 21 May 1999 13:52:47 -0500 Dharma <fisher1 >writes: >> >Dharma <fisher1 >> >> >I told them it takes longer to be able to do it without drugs, but >> >it's a lot safer... and you can come out whenever you want to. >> > >> Yes, using LSD is a risky >> behavior made riskier by >> prohibition -- it's made >> by amateur chemists of >> dubious skills, and often >> unnecessarily adulterated >> with other, nastier >> chemicals. Another issue >> is the metering of dosage >> -- a *tiny* amount of the >> stuff suffices, and a >> sloppy chemist can easily >> and inadvertantly overdo >> it by a *huge* margin. >> Thanks for your testimony >> -- I was lucky and I know >> it! > >Hello all. >Haven't done psychedelics within the last 10 years. >Have found them to be conducive to spiritual awakening but only fueled >with the right intent. > Yes, "right intent" being "OK, let's see what happens," with no expectations -- hey, that's pretty much the *absence* of "intent." If that actually happens, you don't need the psychedelics! It's interesting to see how these substances seem to be at least somewhat self- limiting -- David's decade and my three decades sans psychedelics are fairly typical, I've found. >I trust no harm & only good can come from supplying these links. > >http://www.zaken.net/climax/products/4001.htm >http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/plants/lsa/ > Interesting. >Blessings. Right back atcha, David. http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm m(_ _)m _ _________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Bruce Morgen wrote: > On Fri, 21 May 1999 13:52:47 -0500 Dharma <fisher1 writes: > >Dharma <fisher1 > > >I told them it takes longer to be able to do it without drugs, but > >it's a lot safer... and you can come out whenever you want to. > > > Yes, using LSD is a risky > behavior made riskier by > prohibition -- it's made > by amateur chemists of > dubious skills, and often > unnecessarily adulterated > with other, nastier > chemicals. Another issue > is the metering of dosage > -- a *tiny* amount of the > stuff suffices, and a > sloppy chemist can easily > and inadvertantly overdo > it by a *huge* margin. > Thanks for your testimony > -- I was lucky and I know > it! Hello all. Haven't done psychedelics within the last 10 years. Have found them to be conducive to spiritual awakening but only fueled with the right intent. I trust no harm & only good can come from supplying these links. http://www.zaken.net/climax/products/4001.htm http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/plants/lsa/ Blessings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 1999 Report Share Posted May 21, 1999 Bruce Morgen wrote: > Yes, "right intent" being > "OK, let's see what happens," > with no expectations -- hey, > that's pretty much the > *absence* of "intent." If > that actually happens, you > don't need the psychedelics! Quite true. No one needs them. Just like no one *needs* mantras, religions or gurus. When I first tried LSD it was simply out of curiosity. I had no idea it would act as a psycho/spiritual healing catalyst. In fact for the person I was tripping with it was just great fun. Nothing more. > It's interesting to see how > these substances seem to be > at least somewhat self- > limiting -- David's decade > and my three decades sans > psychedelics are fairly > typical, I've found. Exactly. There is relatively low to no abuse potential for these drugs. Ironic that I can I buy a flame-thrower, grenade launcher & machine gun in the US. But I'm breaking the law if I pick a mushroom that freely grows in cow shit that may or may not play a role in psycho/spiritual healing. Take Care, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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