Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 I checked out the URLs given by David and Tim G, and here's what I found. (I guess I should mention that I am a professional astrologer, among other things... web page coming soon. >David: >Just checked my horoscope at Rob Brezsny's page. Kinda neat with regard >to the recent discussions. >snip< >Rob is quite awesome in my eyes as far as horoscopes go. >http://www.realastrology.com/index.html Rob doesn't do horoscopes... at least, he isn't offering to do one for you. He does recommend five astrologers who can give you a horoscope. If you look on his site under GNO SIS, you'll find an article on him from Gnosis magazine. Here's a few bits from it: >IN THE LATE '80s, a new band, World Entertainment > War, started playing in clubs in the San > Francisco Bay Area. Fronted by Rob Brezsny, also > known as Pope Artaud, the group's lyrics > spotlighted the manipulations of modern media and > the joy of self-discovery, served up with heady > doses of Tantric imagery and ironic wit. Embedded > in the prevailing milieu of hip cynicism and > extreme noise, the group seemed to reach for a > radical shamanic mantle and produced some > bone-shaking dance music in the porocess. WEW's > first album, Telepathics Anonymous, appeared in > 1987. Brezsny and company formed their own > Infomania label for the production of their > second album, Televisionary, in 1989. In 1991, > WEW's shot at the big time, the self-titled World > Entertainment War, came out on Popular > Metaphysics Records, distributed by entertainment > giant MCA. > > On the verge of gaining a wider national audience > and possibly succumbing to rock stardom, Brezsny > disbanded the group and decided to withdraw from > the limelight for a spell while he sorted out his > relationship to mass marketing and show biz. > While it is commonplace for heavy-metal bands to > flaunt the trappings of black magic, or for > Gothic dirge groups to summon up images of the > occult, Brezsny's songs and stage presence > implied a more complex (and ironic) engagement > with magic and the unseen. >snip< > At present, Brezsny occasionally appears as World > Entertainment War at live readings and is working > on a novel about "seven minutes of world orgasm, > my transformation into a lesbian man, and a coup > d'état of the corporate media performed by the > Menstrual Temple of the Funky Grail." He also > writes a weekly tongue-in-cheek astrology column > that appears in [104] alternative city papers. This astrology column, The Televisionary Oracle Newsletter, is what you get on his web site, along with some interviews and profiles, his FAQ, links, etc. He does offer a phone service at $1.99 per minute. This appears to be either a recorded weekly sun-sign forecast or a link to a live phone service on which you would NOT get his voice. >Dialing For Delirium > Rob's expanded weekly horoscopes > are guaranteed to drive you absolutely sane! > 1-900-903-2500 > $1.99 per minute *18&over* touchtone phone > C/S 612/373-9785 At the top of his web page is an offer of a free horoscope. When you pressed that button, you linked to another website, The ChartShop, with astrologer Kelli Fox. I went through the process of getting my free horoscope from her, during which I was required to give my name and home address... we'll see what comes of that. What I got was: 1) an accurate horoscope chart... why not? The calculations are all done by computer very easily now. 2) a computerized report in two sections: "Section 1: How You Approach Life and How You Appear To Others," which is a few paragraphs on the sign on my Ascendant (applicable to 1/12th of the people on earth, since there are 12 signs). "Section 2: The Inner You: Your Real Motivation," some paragraphs on my Sun-sign (applicable to 1/12th of the people on earth). Putting these two together produced an interesting portrait of a Virgo/Scorpio schizophrenic, since those signs are quite different and what you can say about them is often contradictory. For instance, my clear, cool, objective and nonemotional attitude is apparent to others, but with my powerful need for deep emotional involvement, I form very intense love bonds and attachments. I am the person others might go to for technical advice or an unbiased opinion, but whatever I do, I do with passion and fervor, and I often go to extremes. I am either hot or cold, never lukewarm about anything. Rarely am I emotionally detached and objective, and I definitely have a fanatical streak! )))) LOL! This is what happens with computerized astrological readings. And these are only two factors out of many in the actual horoscope. A real astrologer has to take into account all of the factors and see the horoscope as a whole, as a portrait of a unique individual, something a computer can't do. Fox offers other readings for "as low as $10"... these look like more computer-generated readings based on one or two factors... for instance, reports on your love-life or your career, etc. ---- >>David: >>Just checked my horoscope at Rob Brezsny's page.... > >Tim G.: >Here is mine, from the "Planet Waves" site ><http://www.planetwaves.net/PW990521.html> > >snip< >me: Sounds wonderful... I think I'll lengthen my meditative sessions a bit :-) Tim, what you read was not your horoscope. It was a weekly Sun-sign forecast for everyone born with the Sun in Leo (1/12th of the people on earth). The good news is that it's the web page of Eric Francis, who is a real astrologer, judging from what he says about himself... > I am a specialist in new planets -- Chiron, Pluto, Nessus, and >Pholus -snip- > > I read natal astrology, progressions, and solar arc directions. I >am versed in traditional > astrology as well as its more modern expressions. I offer teaching >readings for > professional astrologers wishing to integrate new planets into >their work. All of your > chart work is included with your reading; ask me for the charts you >need and I'll be > happy to provide them. and judging from his fees. No working astrologer can afford to do serious and time-consuming work for $10 or $20. > My Business Policies and Professional Fees > > My fee for astrological consulting is $100 per hour for >individuals, $175 per hour, plus > expenses, for corporations. I offer package rates for new clients >seeking individual work. > > The first package includes two taped 90-minute sessions, plus an >intake session and a > brief questions-and-answers follow-up (after the two sessions are >complete), for a total of > $255. This is a total of four hours of session time, plus my chart >work and research. The > two long sessions are scheduled 7-10 days apart. > > The second recognizes the value of longer-term process. This >includes one 90-minute > session and then three 75-minute sessions conducted over four to >five weeks. All the > sessions are taped. The fee for this is $400. -snip- > > For clients who are not planning on doing intensive short or medium >range work, I > strongly recommend working with me at least seasonally -- once >every three months -- > for one year. > > I require pre-payment for all work, -snip- we will schedule the >first session after your > payment is received. I require 48-hours notice for cancellation, or >a $50 cancellation fee > may apply. Returned items are subject to a $25 fee. So, Tim, you can probably get very good material from this man, if you are willing to pay for his time. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 Another computerized "free lunch to make one happy" on the web is numerology. Free readings at: http://www.sikhnet.com http://www.thedreamtime.com An excerpt from what the first link offered: GIFT OF 8 This number indicates your natural GIFT in life. This is your God-given talent. You don't have to work for it; it's yours... IF you accept it! The key to accepting your GIFT is to connect with your soul. You cannot accept and use your gift unless you feel that you deserve it. Remember, this gift is already yours. Relax, use it and enjoy it. Your gift is Fearlessness. This gift will give you the ability to plan ahead and to help others to get ahead as well. It will enable you to serve many people because it brings with it boundless energy. Your gift will allow you to keep up through every obstacle of life and never quit. If you keep up on a spiritual path in your life, nothing can ever stop you from achieving your goals. The more you work on yourself, the more your gift will manifest. An excerpt from what the second link offered: SUITABLE VOCATIONS: You excel in jobs that involve mental activity particularly academic fields such as science, accountancy, business management, computer programming, systems analysis and the like. Your research abilities are keen and writing is well aspected so journalism is also an excellent field for you to consider. You work best alone so partnerships are not well aspected for you. Whatever career choice you make it is important that it combines your mental, creative and inspirational talents. When you find a path that combines all three then you will be truly satisfied. Remember that your Soul Urge Number and your Outer Expression Number will greatly influence your choice of career. Have fun, Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 Dharma wrote: > I am a professional astrologer, among other things... web page coming soon. I'm holding my breath so hurry up! > Rob doesn't do horoscopes... at least, he isn't offering to do one for > you. He does recommend five astrologers who can give you a horoscope. > > If you look on his site under GNO SIS, you'll find an article on him from > Gnosis magazine. Here's a few bits from it: Yes, I scanned through his bio before. Seems like a fun guy. I invited him to my poetry site last week. You skipped this part tho: " He allows that he was born in Texas, "within 100 miles of the largest nuclear weapons plant in the world," under the sign of Cancer, and that yes, he really is a trained astrologer who does each week's charts." At least Rob knows how to do horoscopes. I used to do charts back in 85-87 so I do know what you're talking about tho. As far as weekly sun signs go there's not much stock to be put into them (& some'd say neither the really detailed horoscopes either) but what I like about Rob is the wisdom he imparts in such a fun way. It doesn't matter when I read the clip or even if it's my sign (I often read the other signs too). Wisdom is wisdom, and even better when presented in a fun way. > This is what happens with computerized astrological readings. You must be familiar with Rick Tarnas. I heard an extensive bootleg tape on a presentation for an audience of psychotherapists, psychoanalysts, etc with Stan Grof that fused the transpersonal realms with astrology. *Very* interesting. I remember Stan (whom I consider to be a smart guy) saying that the only way he knew how to get a reliable indication in which direction a session in non-ordinary conscious would go with a client was through a well interpreted horoscope. In fact he was quite skeptical for a long time but eventually had to submit to Rick's uncanny accuracy. Thanx for the tips Dharma & Tim I still have to check out the site you sent. D.... (starstuck) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 Hello, For anyone who has done their calculations from the sikhnet site trying taking the numbers a step further. Add up the soul and karma numbers and reduce the number down to it's single digit. That number's qualities will represent a persistent challenge in your life, a character attribute that rears it's head often. I tend to think of it as the ego's front line of defense . Linda Another computerized "free lunch to make one happy" on the web is numerology. Free readings at: http://www.sikhnet.com http://www.thedreamtime.com An excerpt from what the first link offered: GIFT OF 8 This number indicates your natural GIFT in life. This is your God-given talent. You don't have to work for it; it's yours... IF you accept it! The key to accepting your GIFT is to connect with your soul. You cannot accept and use your gift unless you feel that you deserve it. Remember, this gift is already yours. Relax, use it and enjoy it. Your gift is Fearlessness. This gift will give you the ability to plan ahead and to help others to get ahead as well. It will enable you to serve many people because it brings with it boundless energy. Your gift will allow you to keep up through every obstacle of life and never quit. If you keep up on a spiritual path in your life, nothing can ever stop you from achieving your goals. The more you work on yourself, the more your gift will manifest. An excerpt from what the second link offered: SUITABLE VOCATIONS: You excel in jobs that involve mental activity particularly academic fields such as science, accountancy, business management, computer programming, systems analysis and the like. Your research abilities are keen and writing is well aspected so journalism is also an excellent field for you to consider. You work best alone so partnerships are not well aspected for you. Whatever career choice you make it is important that it combines your mental, creative and inspirational talents. When you find a path that combines all three then you will be truly satisfied. Remember that your Soul Urge Number and your Outer Expression Number will greatly influence your choice of career. Have fun, Jan ------ With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily... ....ONElist is THE place where the world talks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Hello, > > For anyone who has done their calculations from the sikhnet site trying > taking the numbers a step further. Add up the soul and karma numbers and > reduce the number down to it's single digit. That number's qualities will > represent a persistent challenge in your life, a character attribute that > rears it's head often. I tend to think of it as the ego's front line of > defense . > > Linda On the contrary; adding & reducing resulted in the path-number ) Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 Hi Jan: How did you come to that? If I take the full birthdate of (5/12/1951) 5+1+2+1+9+5+1 = 6 that is the path number, if I take the 5 (birth month) and add it to the 12 (birth day) I get an '8' . Linda jb [kvy9] Sunday, May 23, 1999 3:35 PM Re: Astro Reviews "jb" <kvy9 > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Hello, > > For anyone who has done their calculations from the sikhnet site trying > taking the numbers a step further. Add up the soul and karma numbers and > reduce the number down to it's single digit. That number's qualities will > represent a persistent challenge in your life, a character attribute that > rears it's head often. I tend to think of it as the ego's front line of > defense . > > Linda On the contrary; adding & reducing resulted in the path-number ) Jan ------ ONElist: bringing the world together. Join a new list today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Hi Jan: > > How did you come to that? If I take the full birthdate of (5/12/1951) > 5+1+2+1+9+5+1 = 6 that is the path number, if I take the 5 (birth > month) and > add it to the 12 (birth day) I get an '8' . > > Linda Following your instructions "Add up the soul and karma numbers and reduce the number down to it's single digit" literally. Soul-nr is 2, karma-nr is 10 is 1+0=1, sum is 2+1 =3. The pathnumber is 3 too [(10/2/1944);1+0+2+1+9+4+4=3] So how about your theory? Jan > > > jb [kvy9] > Sunday, May 23, 1999 3:35 PM > > Re: Astro Reviews > > "jb" <kvy9 > > > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > > > Hello, > > > > For anyone who has done their calculations from the sikhnet site trying > > taking the numbers a step further. Add up the soul and karma > numbers and > > reduce the number down to it's single digit. That number's > qualities will > > represent a persistent challenge in your life, a character > attribute that > > rears it's head often. I tend to think of it as the ego's front line of > > defense . > > > > Linda > > On the contrary; adding & reducing resulted in the path-number ) > > Jan > > > ------ > ONElist: bringing the world together. > > Join a new list today! > > > ------ > ONElist: bringing the world together. > > Join a new list today! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 Hi Jan: In the case of 10/2/1944 the 'path' number would be the same as 'ego front line' number, therefore the qualities of the 3 would be of greater significance. If you go back to the 5/12/1951 the six is the 'path' and the 'experience' number is six so the six would have stronger significance - these recurring numbers happen often. This number that I call 'ego front line' has been called the 'challenge' number by others and comes from the same system as that on the sikhnet page. All of the extra numbers work around the basic 5 found on that page. I find that the number which comes from the karma (month) and soul (day) is generally significant as a stumbling block which once understood can be worked on for it's positive qualities. Linda jb [kvy9] Sunday, May 23, 1999 8:16 PM Re: Astro Reviews "jb" <kvy9 > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Hi Jan: > > How did you come to that? If I take the full birthdate of (5/12/1951) > 5+1+2+1+9+5+1 = 6 that is the path number, if I take the 5 (birth > month) and > add it to the 12 (birth day) I get an '8' . > > Linda Following your instructions "Add up the soul and karma numbers and reduce the number down to it's single digit" literally. Soul-nr is 2, karma-nr is 10 is 1+0=1, sum is 2+1 =3. The pathnumber is 3 too [(10/2/1944);1+0+2+1+9+4+4=3] So how about your theory? Jan > > > jb [kvy9] > Sunday, May 23, 1999 3:35 PM > > Re: Astro Reviews > > "jb" <kvy9 > > > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > > > Hello, > > > > For anyone who has done their calculations from the sikhnet site trying > > taking the numbers a step further. Add up the soul and karma > numbers and > > reduce the number down to it's single digit. That number's > qualities will > > represent a persistent challenge in your life, a character > attribute that > > rears it's head often. I tend to think of it as the ego's front line of > > defense . > > > > Linda > > On the contrary; adding & reducing resulted in the path-number ) > > Jan > > > ------ > ONElist: bringing the world together. > > Join a new list today! > > > ------ > ONElist: bringing the world together. > > Join a new list today! > ------ Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 At 08:37 PM 5/23/99 -0400, you wrote: >"Linda Callanan" <shastra >This number that I call 'ego front >line' has been called the 'challenge' number by others and comes from the >same system as that on the sikhnet page. All of the extra numbers work >around the basic 5 found on that page. Fascinating page... it even suggests a personal sadhana (which of course I'm disregarding completely... not only am I not a Sikh, but who wants a computer for a guru ;-) ----- Visit The Core of the WWW at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 The Sikh numerology page is actually far more complex than others I've seen. For example, compare the entire statement (my gift reading) with Jan's, and you'll see that the computer carefully formulated the answer (notice the last paragraph especially, mentioning my "neurotic self-identity" - it's true!) I don't really believe that numerology (or astrology) are important... what is important is to continue on a path leading to realization of total homogenous existence, knowing that there is nothing but Absolute Reality.... and once realized, keep continuing. The "path" is an endless journey. That said, here's my "gift" reading - GIFT OF 10 This number indicates your natural GIFT in life. This is your God-given talent. You don't have to work for it; it's yours... IF you accept it! The key to accepting your GIFT is to connect with your soul. You cannot accept and use your gift unless you feel that you deserve it. Remember, this gift is already yours. Relax, use it and enjoy it. Your gift is to be a mover and a shaker. You will have the radiance and projection to get things done quicker than anyone else. You are a natural leader, a commander. Your radiance, and royal bearing will cause others to listen to you immediately. Your gift is to be able to do your work with such zest that the very project itself will manifest your radiance. This gift means that whatever you apply yourself to in your life will become totally radiant. If you keep up on a spiritual path in your life, and give up your neurotic self-identity to live in your grace and higher consciousness, your special gift will manifest very strongly. Tim ----- Visit The Core of the WWW at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 1999 Report Share Posted May 24, 1999 >The Sikh numerology page is actually far more complex than others I've >seen. For example, compare the entire statement (my gift reading) with >Jan's, and you'll see that the computer carefully formulated the answer >(notice the last paragraph especially, mentioning my "neurotic >self-identity" - it's true!) It is a very useful system that actually contains over 20 calculations all built on the original 5. >I don't really believe that numerology (or astrology) are important... what >is important is to continue on a path leading to realization of total Agreed....however, they are useful systems of knowledge that can serve people at appropriate junctions in life. Many, many people will tell you that the start of their journey begin with a numerology, astrology, tarot or iching consultation. >homogenous existence, knowing that there is nothing but Absolute >Reality.... and once realized, keep continuing. The "path" is an endless >journey. That said, here's my "gift" reading - GIFT OF 10 >This number indicates your natural GIFT in life. This is your God-given >talent. You don't have to work for it; it's yours... IF you accept it! >The key to accepting your GIFT is to connect with your soul. You cannot >accept and use your gift unless you feel that you deserve it. Remember, >this gift is already yours. Relax, use it and enjoy it. Often the 'soul' or 'inner self' number can be a challenge that is where the sadhanna comes into play - by working on the number through a sadhanna the number becomes effective. I did a 1000 day sadhanna to bring certain numbers into balance. >Your gift is to be a mover and a shaker. You will have the radiance and >projection to get things done quicker than anyone else. You are a natural >leader, a commander. Your radiance, and royal bearing will cause others to >listen to you immediately. >Your gift is to be able to do your work with such zest that the very >project itself will manifest your radiance. This gift means that whatever >you apply yourself to in your life will become totally radiant. >If you keep up on a spiritual path in your life, and give up your neurotic >self-identity to live in your grace and higher consciousness, your special >gift will manifest very strongly. There is actually a 'body' or 'layer' that corresponds to this number known as the 'radiant body' which you can feel it is a band of energy that runs above the crown chakra. If you have a juicer - cucumber juice is very good for this layer of energy as is 'archer pose'. Tim Linda ----- Visit The Core of the WWW at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html ------ With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily... ....ONElist is THE place where the world talks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 1999 Report Share Posted May 24, 1999 At 01:07 AM 5/24/99 -0400, you wrote: >"Linda Callanan" <shastra > Agreed....however, they are useful systems of knowledge that can serve >people at appropriate junctions in life. Many, many people will tell you >that the start of their journey begin with a numerology, astrology, tarot or >iching consultation. Absolutely. I'm in no way "knocking" true astrologers, numerologists and such (although as Dharma mentioned, there are plenty of fakes around). Certainly the planets must have an influence on maya and on the physical and subtle (astral) bodies, given their various gravitational pulls and radio frequency outputs. Mankind knows very little about this universe. I remain open minded and never make foolish assumptions (such as "it's all bunk.") Although I stated I didn't think astrology and numerology and such were important, I didn't say they were unimportant either, or invalidate them as useful (especially as a starting point, as you mentioned). >Often the 'soul' or 'inner self' number can be a challenge that is where the >sadhanna comes into play - by working on the number through a sadhanna the >number becomes effective. I did a 1000 day sadhanna to bring certain >numbers into balance. I noticed that the system recommended a 1000-day something or another. That's where I draw the line. The reading was interesting, and surprisingly accurate, but I follow no path prescribed by a person, a computer, a planet or a deck of cards. I follow only where Grace leads. >There is actually a 'body' or 'layer' that corresponds to this number known >as the 'radiant body' which you can feel it is a band of energy that runs >above the crown chakra. If you have a juicer - cucumber juice is very good >for this layer of energy as is 'archer pose'. Hmmm :-)... I don't have a juicer, but may have to get one (they're good for more than just cucumbers). I've noticed that prior to certain "spiritual experiences" I've had (including one where "I" was not present at all, only a void with a pinpoint of clear silver-white light) there was a strong tingling or vibrating sensation in the crown chakra. In fact, focusing attention on that area for any length of time tends to bring a "transcendent" feeling, by itself. Hari OM, Tim ----- Visit The Core of the WWW at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 1999 Report Share Posted May 24, 1999 Hi Tim G., >I've noticed that prior to certain "spiritual experiences" I've had >(including one where "I" was not present at all, only a void with a >pinpoint of clear silver-white light) there was a strong tingling or >vibrating sensation in the crown chakra. In fact, focusing attention on >that area for any length of time tends to bring a "transcendent" feeling, >by itself. It isn't just a feeling... at those moments you ARE transcending lower levels/states of consciousness. As you clear away the blocks, you'll have more and more energy getting all the way to crown chakra... you can clear away stuff from crown chakra too... and open it up wide. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 1999 Report Share Posted May 24, 1999 > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Hi Jan: > > In the case of 10/2/1944 the 'path' number would be the same as 'ego front > line' number, therefore the qualities of the 3 would be of greater > significance. If you go back to the 5/12/1951 the six is the > 'path' and the > 'experience' number is six so the six would have stronger significance - > these recurring numbers happen often. This number that I call 'ego front > line' has been called the 'challenge' number by others and comes from the > same system as that on the sikhnet page. All of the extra numbers work > around the basic 5 found on that page. I find that the number which comes > from the karma (month) and soul (day) is generally significant as a > stumbling block which once understood can be worked on for it's positive > qualities. > > Linda Dear Linda, Sometimes computers are nicknamed fast idiots; it was relatively easy to list the cases where pathnumber and "ego front line number" are equal; the recurrence is every nine years and that year is an entire hit. If your "ego front line number" does have a meaning, this nine year cycle should be mentioned somewhere. The entire year 1944 was a "hit" as can be easily shown: take 1/31/1944 and for path: 1+3+1+1+9+4+4=5. For "ego" it is 1+3+1=5. The same for 12/1/1953: 1+2+1+1+9+5+3=4 and 1+2+1=4 too.... Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 1999 Report Share Posted May 24, 1999 Dear Linda, Thanks for the explanation. I can't relate to nine year periods and neither to the number two; there are no relatives born at the "niner years". What was striking with the numerology at the Sikhnet, was that I typed in the data of many well known relatives as well and always the program showed what indeed was the major impediment for a spiritual path; it was an "ego-asset" that was strongly present and noticeable, not by the one involved but by other relatives. Such a high incidence of correctness is rare for a computer program Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 1999 Report Share Posted May 24, 1999 Ahh Jan: Someone to cause me to explain a bit more. The year 1944 was what is known as a '9' year (universal year signficator) and you are right in those years the 'ego front line' number will definitely repeat itself. Last year - 1998 was a universal 9 and most people that I know did have a time of challenge so we all go through a cycle of 9 years where that number becomes highlighted. Any child born during that year will most likely find that the number that results from the karma and soul numbers will be significant. For instance someone born on the date you give of 10/2/1944 would resonate with the 2 rather strongly because of it's double emphasis. Such a person depending on their level of consciousness could be strongly concerned with ahimsa and calmness. Another person though could due to a need for peace be very fearful of confrontation to the point of being a victim or they could be so involved with negative viewpoints that they could see life through a depressed lens so to speak. Linda jb [kvy9] Monday, May 24, 1999 8:44 AM Re: Astro Reviews "jb" <kvy9 > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Hi Jan: > > In the case of 10/2/1944 the 'path' number would be the same as 'ego front > line' number, therefore the qualities of the 3 would be of greater > significance. If you go back to the 5/12/1951 the six is the > 'path' and the > 'experience' number is six so the six would have stronger significance - > these recurring numbers happen often. This number that I call 'ego front > line' has been called the 'challenge' number by others and comes from the > same system as that on the sikhnet page. All of the extra numbers work > around the basic 5 found on that page. I find that the number which comes > from the karma (month) and soul (day) is generally significant as a > stumbling block which once understood can be worked on for it's positive > qualities. > > Linda Dear Linda, Sometimes computers are nicknamed fast idiots; it was relatively easy to list the cases where pathnumber and "ego front line number" are equal; the recurrence is every nine years and that year is an entire hit. If your "ego front line number" does have a meaning, this nine year cycle should be mentioned somewhere. The entire year 1944 was a "hit" as can be easily shown: take 1/31/1944 and for path: 1+3+1+1+9+4+4=5. For "ego" it is 1+3+1=5. The same for 12/1/1953: 1+2+1+1+9+5+3=4 and 1+2+1=4 too.... Jan ------ Campaign 2000 is here! Discuss your thoughts; get informed at ONElist. See our homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 1999 Report Share Posted May 24, 1999 Dear Jan: It is an excellent system and the advanced calculations are mostly useful for people who are interested in dissecting themselves a bit more. It saves me great amounts of time with students and clients and the calculations are easy enough that I can do them in my head . You are right about the numbers being accurate I have probably worked with over 10,000 dates in the past 8 years and either the birth month or the birth day will give me a good starting point. Thanks for the dialogue. Linda ----- Dear Linda, Thanks for the explanation. I can't relate to nine year periods and neither to the number two; there are no relatives born at the "niner years". What was striking with the numerology at the Sikhnet, was that I typed in the data of many well known relatives as well and always the program showed what indeed was the major impediment for a spiritual path; it was an "ego-asset" that was strongly present and noticeable, not by the one involved but by other relatives. Such a high incidence of correctness is rare for a computer program Jan ------ ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. Join a new list today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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