Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 On Sun, 23 May 1999 10:43:22 Rob Rinne wrote: >The autoerotic effect of heroin sounds a lot like some of the feelings that K can impart. Yes, and heroin abuse directly connects with libido. >The big difference, as I see it, is that K is a spiritual experience, with the accompanying physiological sensations serving as a reward or sign to let us know that it's good for us and to entice us to cooperate by letting go. Heroin, on the other hand, does not impart a spiritual experience (by my definition of the term). Users become addicted to the physiological reward (which is not to say that it is not possible to get addicted to seeking K experiences). However, research into the effects of heroin may give a better understanding of the physiology of K. I was just thinking of the same thing. After K meditation, my eyes always get very sensitive to light, and that reminded me of something (pharmacology class at univ) so the other day, while in K meditation, I got up and looked at my eyes in the mirror. The pupils were pin points = extremely constricted despite this being in the evening at low light conditions. To me, that says something about what part of the nervous system, namely the parasympathetic which is strongly activated during K flow. It is the same system which is over stimulated during heroin abuse, or rather, the opposite functioning sympathetic part of the nervous system being repressed during heroin use and which causes the unpleasant effects during withdrawal. I'm pretty sure K induces a stimulation of the parasympathetic nervous system (among other things), as well as a huge release and subsequent production of the body's own pain killers, and reward / pleasure molecules: the endorphins and enkephalins, whose effect heroin and morphine mimic. Some of the same things happen during orgasm, and I'm pretty sure the physiology has some common characteristics. It's all brainstem stuff becoming available for the higher brain levels and ultimately, the conscious mind. And yes, I certainly do find the K pretty addictive... Best regards, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 1999 Report Share Posted May 25, 1999 Amanda Erhart wrote: > To me, that says something about what part of the nervous system, namely the parasympathetic which is strongly activated during K flow. Interesting to note that yohimbine works by selectively blocking the sympathetic system. That's how it helps men with 'staying' power if you know what I mean. David (not going anywhere) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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