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Tim Gerchmez wrote:

>

> >Can any experience be except through the body?-- not necessarily the

> senses >but still the body.

 

> Yes, absolutely. But you won't know this until attention to the body is

> dropped and attention is placed where attention should be at all times - on

> the Absolute, the Atman. The Atman is not the body. The Atman is not

> experienced through thought or through the mind, and cannot be known

> through anything having to do with the body.

>

> There is a great deal of ignorance in these forums.

>

> Aham Brahmasmi,

>

> Tim

 

 

There is the physical body, and then there are the subtle bodies.

Anything that can be attended to is housed within a 'body'. The most

sublime spiritual experience anyone has ever had-- the greatest mystical

experience of all time -- is an experience within a subtle body.

 

This can only be known prior to 'attaining' The Absolute. In fact, once

the Absolute is 'attained', a person no longer 'has' such knowledge;

there is really nothing they can speak about. There are no experiences.

 

Everything can be attended to. Except the Absolute. For, clearly,

attending to anything is dualistic, in need of the mind.

 

We haven't heard from Emily Dickinson lately. One feels her push beyond

the mind, beyond the 'lisp' of the Absolute:

 

By intuition, Mighty Things

Assert themselves – and not by terms –

“I”m Midnight” – need the Midnight say –

“I”m Sunrise” – Need the Majesty?

Omnipotence – had not a Tongue –

His lisp – is lightning – and the sun –

His Conversation– with Sea –

“How shall you know”?

Consult your eye!

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If we investigate closely, we just might find that experiences do not

happen through the body. That the body is not something that serves as a

conduit for experience -- it is ITSELF nothing more than experiences. It

is experienced as sensations, feelings and thoughts. And where do these

sensations, feelings and thoughts happen? Not in or through the body, not

anywhere in fact. Totally non-localized. Any localization is itself just

an experience.

 

--Greg Goode

 

At 12:50 PM 5/28/99 -0300, Jerry M. Katz wrote:

>umbada (Jerry M. Katz)

>

>Tim Gerchmez wrote:

>>

>> >Can any experience be except through the body?-- not necessarily the

>> senses >but still the body.

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In a message dated 5/28/1999 1:26:42 PM Atlantic Daylight Time, goode

writes:

 

<< Greg Goode <goode

 

If we investigate closely, we just might find that experiences do not

happen through the body. That the body is not something that serves as a

conduit for experience -- it is ITSELF nothing more than experiences. It

is experienced as sensations, feelings and thoughts. And where do these

sensations, feelings and thoughts happen? Not in or through the body, not

anywhere in fact. Totally non-localized. Any localization is itself just

an experience.

>>

 

Harsha: Thanks Greg for offering this perspective, this understanding, this

quantum leap. To abide in That until there is nothing at all radical and

unusual about it, until it is absolutely nothing at all is the pathless path.

Abiding in that we enjoy the natural season.

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At 05:46 PM 5/28/99 EDT, HarshaIMTM wrote:

>

>Harsha: Thanks Greg for offering this perspective, this understanding, this

>quantum leap. To abide in That until there is nothing at all radical and

>unusual about it, until it is absolutely nothing at all is the pathless

path.

>Abiding in that we enjoy the natural season.

 

Harsha,

 

Thanks for your note! I'd submit that this perspective is *already*

everyone's experience. It is NOW, whether abiding happens or not. You're

right, it *is* the pathless path. Enjoy!!

 

--Greg