Guest guest Posted June 6, 1999 Report Share Posted June 6, 1999 > Keith Nightingale <keithnightingale > > Hi everyone, > > It has come to my attention over the years of netting that there are a > number of totally enlightened beings out there. Which brings out the question "hoe to recognize an enlightened being"?. > Not only totally enlightened but driven by overwhelming > compassion to teach > those "with only a little dust in their eyes". The term "totally enlightened" suggests the possibility of "partly enlightened". Doesn't being subjected to urges suggest one should continue sadhana instead of start teaching? > This would be no problem except for one thing ... none of the > great unwashed > seem to be interested ... and the only ones who do seem to be interested > think that they are totally enlightened as well and therefore > don't need to > listen to the truth. > > Jeez !!!!!!!!!! Doesn't this reveal a serious wanting_to_be_teacher problem? A friendly advice: Continue sadhana until freed from all urges > > Anyway I got to thinking why should each enlightened being suffer > alone...(even if there is no one else). Isn't enlightenment supposed to be the end of suffering? Apart from that, it can even be the end of pain which is "mind over matter" in a literal sense. > In the proud tradition of the nineties ... I suggest that all afflicted > consider joining a support group for the enlightened, but frustrated at > being ignored, spiritual teachers. As long as one is able to experience frustration, one has to continue sadhana. This way, frustration will vanish as well as all tendencies (like the one to teach). > Truly there is NO SHAME in finding yourself in this awkward position. > There even appears to be some research evidence suggesting a > genetic effect. Isn't shame a non-issue for any enlightened one? > It is not your fault. Thank you > I suggest something loosely based on the twelve step program. Bringing in the teacher through the backdoor? > > Remember ... > together we can be strong and overcome or at least learn to cope > with this > crippling condition. Isn't that weird algebra? There is only one "real nature" that can neither be multiplied nor divided and it is free from all conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 1999 Report Share Posted June 6, 1999 Hi everyone, It has come to my attention over the years of netting that there are a number of totally enlightened beings out there. Not only totally enlightened but driven by overwhelming compassion to teach those "with only a little dust in their eyes". This would be no problem except for one thing ... none of the great unwashed seem to be interested ... and the only ones who do seem to be interested think that they are totally enlightened as well and therefore don't need to listen to the truth. Jeez !!!!!!!!!! Anyway I got to thinking why should each enlightened being suffer alone...(even if there is no one else). In the proud tradition of the nineties ... I suggest that all afflicted consider joining a support group for the enlightened, but frustrated at being ignored, spiritual teachers. Truly there is NO SHAME in finding yourself in this awkward position. There even appears to be some research evidence suggesting a genetic effect. It is not your fault. I suggest something loosely based on the twelve step program. Remember ... together we can be strong and overcome or at least learn to cope with this crippling condition. Much Love Keith Nightingale / Swaraja PHONE / FAX - (61) 8 - 9791-4634 MOBILE PHONE - 0413 - 169177 MAIL ADDRESS - P.O. Box 1944, Bunbury, 6231 HOME ADDRESS - 5 Moore St, East Bunbury, Western Australia EMAIL ADDRESS - keithnightingale ICQ # - 9499200 WEBSITE - http://www.angelfire.com/hi/all1/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 1999 Report Share Posted June 7, 1999 Only when you can accept your own enlightenment will you be able to identify another as enlightened ..... because only then will you have a 'frame of reference' ... You cannot recognise in another what you cannot recognise in yourself With Respect Chris Wynter, Hobart, Tasmania _________________ wynter http://www.anunda.com ____________________ > > > > > > It has come to my attention over the years of netting that there are a > > > number of totally enlightened beings out there. > > > > Which brings out the question "hoe to recognize an enlightened being"?. > > > > > Not only totally enlightened but driven by overwhelming > > > compassion to teach > > > those "with only a little dust in their eyes". > > > > The term "totally enlightened" suggests the possibility of "partly > > enlightened". Doesn't being subjected to urges suggest one should > continue > > sadhana instead of start teaching? > > > > > This would be no problem except for one thing ... none of the > > > great unwashed > > > seem to be interested ... and the only ones who do seem to be > interested > > > think that they are totally enlightened as well and therefore > > > don't need to > > > listen to the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 1999 Report Share Posted June 7, 1999 If it were true that only the deeply enlightened had anything to teach about nonduality, these mailing lists would be about as useful as a copy of the National Enquirer, and maybe only 4 or 5 "master gurus" (Jesus, Buddha, etc) in all of history would have anything valid to say. Never make the mistake of thinking that a "beginner" has nothing to teach. Often those who are "advanced" have more to learn from beginners than the other way around. The teaching/learning frame of mind is always the best. Reject "spiritual authority!" ---------- > Fiona & Chris Wynter <lifestreams > > Re: Proposed Support Group > Sunday, June 06, 1999 8:08 PM > > "Fiona & Chris Wynter" <lifestreams > > Only when you can accept your own enlightenment will you be able to identify another as enlightened > .... because only then will you have a 'frame of reference' ... > > You cannot recognise in another what you cannot recognise in yourself > > > With Respect > Chris Wynter, Hobart, Tasmania > _________________ > > wynter > http://www.anunda.com > ____________________ > > > > > > > > > It has come to my attention over the years of netting that there are a > > > > number of totally enlightened beings out there. > > > > > > Which brings out the question "hoe to recognize an enlightened being"?. > > > > > > > Not only totally enlightened but driven by overwhelming > > > > compassion to teach > > > > those "with only a little dust in their eyes". > > > > > > The term "totally enlightened" suggests the possibility of "partly > > > enlightened". Doesn't being subjected to urges suggest one should > > continue > > > sadhana instead of start teaching? > > > > > > > This would be no problem except for one thing ... none of the > > > > great unwashed > > > > seem to be interested ... and the only ones who do seem to be > > interested > > > > think that they are totally enlightened as well and therefore > > > > don't need to > > > > listen to the truth. > > > > ------ > Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? > > Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 1999 Report Share Posted June 7, 1999 Tim Gerchmez wrote: > > If it were true that only the deeply enlightened had anything to teach > about nonduality, these mailing lists would be about as useful as a copy of > the National Enquirer, and maybe only 4 or 5 "master gurus" (Jesus, Buddha, > etc) in all of history would have anything valid to say. > > Never make the mistake of thinking that a "beginner" has nothing to teach. > Often those who are "advanced" have more to learn from beginners than the > other way around. The teaching/learning frame of mind is always the best. > Reject "spiritual authority!" It's true that we need to recognize the authority or knowledge within ourselves and within others as well. As Gene mentions, the Golden Rule applies and may be re-worded for these Enlightenment Days: "Recognize the state of enlightened awareness in others, even as you would have them recognize that within you." It's a shame that it has to be stated, but it does, for some of us, not all. What it implies is that there are stages of growth even for the enlightened one. Jerry ___________________ Hey, have you signed up for the Nondual Digest? It features the 'best' of the day's postings from Nonduality Salon, and is great for people who don't have time for the chit chat. Subscribe below and enter the draw for a free trip to Hawaii! (Hey, I'm just kidding, but it sounds good!) <//nondualdigest> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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