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> "Amanda Erhart" <mumblecat

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> On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:38:12 jb wrote:

>

> >For practical purposes

> >one can divide the presence of Kundalini in two parts:

> >1. where one experiences visions, sensations, siddhis and the like

> >2. where visions, sensations etc. have come to an end but transformation

> >continues as can be witnessed from the movement of prana. When

> this ends, it

> >means either the physical body will be left or all transformations are

> >completed.

>

> Jan, do you have any thoughts on why the physical

> body in some cases is not left ?

 

There isn't any satisfactory answer I know off. But from the perspective

"what has a start, must have an end" it makes sense that K. awakening has

its opposite. It would leave one absolutely free, without an active reminder

there ever was a spiritual path or something like K. A different question

would be why this is the exception instead of the rule...

> Do you see these two alternatives as the only

> two possible endpoints to a Kundalini activation ?

 

These are only endpoints from the perspective of transformation. How one

will act/react to the transformations is a different matter. I left out

matters like silent bliss, non-duality for the sake of brevity.

> The reason I ask is that I would like to make the

> K activation into something more effective than just

> Bliss-For-One as it is now. :)

 

As long as one thinks one is the doer, one will reap the consequences.

Ramana Maharshi tried to hide in caves but devotees traced him nevertheless

:) He gave in as there wasn't a choice. With the huge amount of teachers and

gurus, the "civilized" world has many givers of bliss already. If you want

to do something effective, get a job in rural Africa and start teaching

meditation in spare time; it is a lost continent in many respects. Buddhism

would be a good choice because of its connection with suffering.

> On beforehand thanks.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Amanda.

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On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:38:12 jb wrote:

>For practical purposes

>one can divide the presence of Kundalini in two parts:

>1. where one experiences visions, sensations, siddhis and the like

>2. where visions, sensations etc. have come to an end but transformation

>continues as can be witnessed from the movement of prana. When this ends, it

>means either the physical body will be left or all transformations are

>completed.

 

Jan, do you have any thoughts on why the physical

body in some cases is not left ?

 

Do you see these two alternatives as the only

two possible endpoints to a Kundalini activation ?

 

The reason I ask is that I would like to make the

K activation into something more effective than just

Bliss-For-One as it is now. :)

 

On beforehand thanks.

 

Best regards,

 

Amanda.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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