Guest guest Posted June 7, 1999 Report Share Posted June 7, 1999 If one is capable of pointing effectively to the nondual perspective, what difference does it make whether that person is "realized" or not? If the teacher is sincere, honest and knowledgeable, students will learn enough to get started, and perhaps "surpass" the teacher before the teacher ever attains moksha. The experience of realization cannot be communicated anyway, it has to be experienced. ---------- > jb <kvy9 > > Re: Proposed Support Group > Sunday, June 06, 1999 12:38 PM > > "jb" <kvy9 > > > Keith Nightingale <keithnightingale > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > It has come to my attention over the years of netting that there are a > > number of totally enlightened beings out there. > > Which brings out the question "hoe to recognize an enlightened being"?. > > > Not only totally enlightened but driven by overwhelming > > compassion to teach > > those "with only a little dust in their eyes". > > The term "totally enlightened" suggests the possibility of "partly > enlightened". Doesn't being subjected to urges suggest one should continue > sadhana instead of start teaching? > > > This would be no problem except for one thing ... none of the > > great unwashed > > seem to be interested ... and the only ones who do seem to be interested > > think that they are totally enlightened as well and therefore > > don't need to > > listen to the truth. > > > > Jeez !!!!!!!!!! > > Doesn't this reveal a serious wanting_to_be_teacher problem? A friendly > advice: Continue sadhana until freed from all urges > > > > Anyway I got to thinking why should each enlightened being suffer > > alone...(even if there is no one else). > > Isn't enlightenment supposed to be the end of suffering? Apart from that, it > can even be the end of pain which is "mind over matter" in a literal sense. > > > In the proud tradition of the nineties ... I suggest that all afflicted > > consider joining a support group for the enlightened, but frustrated at > > being ignored, spiritual teachers. > > As long as one is able to experience frustration, one has to continue > sadhana. This way, frustration will vanish as well as all tendencies (like > the one to teach). > > > Truly there is NO SHAME in finding yourself in this awkward position. > > There even appears to be some research evidence suggesting a > > genetic effect. > > Isn't shame a non-issue for any enlightened one? > > > It is not your fault. > > Thank you > > > I suggest something loosely based on the twelve step program. > > Bringing in the teacher through the backdoor? > > > > Remember ... > > together we can be strong and overcome or at least learn to cope > > with this > > crippling condition. > > Isn't that weird algebra? There is only one "real nature" that can neither > be multiplied nor divided and it is free from all conditions. > > > ------ > How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? > > More than 1,000! Create yours now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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