Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:54:30 Dharma wrote: >I don't have a lot of experience with going OBE... usually when I connect >with another person(s), I just identify ("He/she and I are one") and we are >in the same space... space is an illusion, after all. > >But one day Mystress Angelique Serpent invited me to sit in on a session >with a client at her home in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. So I laid my body >down here in San Antonio, Texas, and went. > >She wrote later that she was asking some questions of the client's high >self or "heart voice," and he said there was another person in the room... >a woman named Dharma. Very intriguing indeed ! >I have to say that my perception of what was going on in the room was not >very clear at all... I think a person could learn to do that better with >practice. I realized that usually, when I connect long-distance with >someone, I'm not trying to perceive what's going on in the outer world... >the gross physical... I'm interested in the inner world, the inner planes. Do you do this projection / OBE for healing, usually ? >Ingo Swann, the well-known psychic, has given a great deal of time to being >the subject of experiments in the laboratory, and many of them involved >remote viewing. Scientists in the lab say Swann just sits in his chair, >smoking his cigars, and appears perfectly normal. He says he's there in >the lab and _also_ travelling to the target area to see what's there. > >One series of experiments involved a closed box suspended above his head. >In each experiment a different object was in the box, along with a lighted >candle. One day Swann told the scientists that he couldn't see anything... >that there was no light in the box. When they opened it, they found the >candle had fallen over and gone out. OK... I can't say much about this as it certainly sounds impressive. How was Swann's score in seeing what was inside the box ? >Many experiments involved viewing scenes at considerable distances... the >target area could be anywhere in the world. As I recall, in each case the >experimenters listed maybe 7 target areas... and they always knew of >someone who could go to each target area and take a photo immediately after >the experiment. At the time of the experiment the target area was chosen >from the list by a computer... at random... and Swann went there and >described what he saw... sometimes drew pictures (he was an artist by >profession). His success rate was extremely high, and in some of the >published material from the reports, you can compare for yourself his >drawings with the photos of the target areas. > >And I found more than that! A search for "Ingo Swann" and "remote viewing" >will give you lots of very interesting material. And here's what appears >to be Swann's home page: > >http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Superpowers.ht>ml OK, I'll take a look at this. I just know that Mr. Spoon Bender Uri Geller has been challenged many times and not been able to demonstrate his abilities under testable conditions very well. Swann may be of a different caliber, though. The tests sound more trustable than the average. Still, what appears on the surface as good tests may not be so when looked at more deeply. But I won't bother you with sceptical drollness. Thanks for sharing ! Best regards, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 Hi Amanda, >snip< >>I have to say that my perception of what was going on in the room was not >>very clear at all... I think a person could learn to do that better with >>practice. I realized that usually, when I connect long-distance with >>someone, I'm not trying to perceive what's going on in the outer world... >>the gross physical... I'm interested in the inner world, the inner planes. > >Do you do this projection / OBE >for healing, usually ? I don't usually think of it as projection/OBE. It's just connecting with someone who is at a distance in the gross physical world... though at no distance actually. I do it for various purposes... healing... to check out someone's chakras... to give some energy (Shaktipat)... for closeness... for sexual union. On another list a group of us meet every night for a Love Bomb. There's a schedule, and each night we join together, pool our energies, and send love (heart chakra energy) to the designated member, the group as a whole, or any other specified target... and sometimes healing is requested too. Our bodies are in various countries, but when we sit or lie down for meditation and think of our oneness, we're in the same space... space is an illusion. There's a time set, but it's a "target time." If someone can't meditate at that time, he can do it any time and just intend to join us... time is an illusion too. How much I "see" varies on different nights, but it isn't important... that's incidental. >>Ingo Swann, the well-known psychic, has given a great deal of time to being >>the subject of experiments in the laboratory, and many of them involved >>remote viewing. Scientists in the lab say Swann just sits in his chair, >>smoking his cigars, and appears perfectly normal. He says he's there in >>the lab and _also_ travelling to the target area to see what's there. >> >>One series of experiments involved a closed box suspended above his head. >>In each experiment a different object was in the box, along with a lighted >>candle. One day Swann told the scientists that he couldn't see anything... >>that there was no light in the box. When they opened it, they found the >>candle had fallen over and gone out. > >OK... I can't say much about this as it certainly > sounds impressive. > >How was Swann's score in seeing what was inside the >box ? I don't remember exactly, but very high. >>Many experiments involved viewing scenes at considerable distances... the >>target area could be anywhere in the world. As I recall, in each case the >>experimenters listed maybe 7 target areas... and they always knew of >>someone who could go to each target area and take a photo immediately after >>the experiment. At the time of the experiment the target area was chosen >>from the list by a computer... at random... and Swann went there and >>described what he saw... sometimes drew pictures (he was an artist by >>profession). His success rate was extremely high, and in some of the >>published material from the reports, you can compare for yourself his >>drawings with the photos of the target areas. >> >>And I found more than that! A search for "Ingo Swann" and "remote viewing" >>will give you lots of very interesting material. And here's what appears >>to be Swann's home page: >> >>http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Superpowers.ht>ml > > OK, I'll take a look at this. > >I just know that Mr. Spoon Bender Uri Geller has been >challenged many times and not been able to demonstrate >his abilities under testable conditions very well. > >Swann may be of a different caliber, though. Hmm, I think it's a lot different to go into the lab and let the scientists experiment on you... than to do a performance on TV or wherever. But I don't know much about Geller. >The tests sound more trustable than the average. > >Still, what appears on the surface as good tests may >not be so when looked at more deeply. The Stanford tests were very good, I thought. But you'll find enough material with the references I gave to look into it yourself, I think. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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