Guest guest Posted June 16, 1999 Report Share Posted June 16, 1999 On Sat, 12 Jun 1999 00:49:23 jb wrote: >There have been other changes as well, like being able to decrease heartbeat >at will and the ability to get muscles out of cramp (hiking in an arid >region has the risk of dehydration). It is nice to hear of your adventures in K land, Jan. You seem like a very adaptable pilgrim indeed. >Regarding food, for some sixteen years >I ate a mixture of grinded flaxseed with veggies and the acid in the stomach >should (must?) have reacted with the flaxseed to form >HCN (hydrocyanic acid) Really ? Maybe some of the veggies could have neutralized the acid. Or you became "immune" to it. >While trying the effect of a plant that covered part of the South of >Tenerife after a few floods from the skies, an acquaintance remarked that >even the goats wouldn't touch that plant so according to him it had to be >poisonous, whereas to me it seemed a mild laxative Living as a hermit, >one can't be aware of deviating from the "norm" unless someone notices it >and makes a remark. That certainly sounds to be the case. If "Man is the measure of all things", what about a man who has no one with which to compare himself. >The existence of a kind of happiness, having the >equal effect as fulfilling all desires simultaneously, is the only "built-in >by nature" guarantee to prevent this destruction. I am sure that the >requirements for active K., self-consciousness and the ability to transform >instinctual energy, can be found in other species too. Maybe, in some of the other simian species. Whenever I look in the eyes of a chimp, I definitely see an I looking back. >Onepointedness is concentration on one thing or aspect only. On the third >eye, it means by feeling a burning point, no other feeling should be felt. >When thinking, it means no unrelated thoughts will >creep in. Thanks a lot for the explanation. I tried it in meditation a few days ago and came back to a place I've been before, when the K first became overtly active. The one pointedness seemed to lead be able to lead to deeper avenues than guessed at before. I'll try and explore it as much as I can in the future. Thank you very much for the tip and the explanation. >In a different society, K. would be the norm and >start at an early age. I would think so too. Many children may be K active from birth, only to shut down at a later stage. I can't believe the things I experienced as a child was very unique among children. Some children (under age 7) seems to pick up on the K, unknown children smile and wave at me on the street. >It >comes natural but "the other way of life" (not centered at spirituality) is >what causes most of the problems. Yes, absoutely. A wasted chance. >The "runners high" is an effective reward >to continue exercise; biology of bodies works with these kinds of stimulants >and K. doesn't make an exception. Yes, absolutely. K rewards and rewards. I feel the more is taken out of it, the more is returned, with increasing strength. >One of the most remarkable changes was the ability of association, like >seeing cause and effect operate not as a line but as a network. On the K. >list there has been a thread on the forming of new synapses as a result of >K.; it is likely. Yes, it is highly likely. I think some new and "impossible" connections from the brain stem to the cerebral cortex are made and activated also under the influence of K. >Again, from an evolutionary point of view, investing extra >"mind-power" without a guarantee against abuse would be unlikely. To me, >there wasn't a choice but to use the "extra" for sadhana itself; it has been >rather rewarding. Do you mean to say the extra energy had to find an outlet by itself ? >It has been practiced during walking for about a year, some thirty years >ago. After that, all practice could be abandoned but it had become a habit. >Having moved to a mountainous region, it was rather impractical as the need >for oxygen depends on up- or downhill, so the habit was abandoned. The 120 >hours was the right "extra" to burn some "nasty" karma of the present life. >After that, even a million hours of pranayama wouldn't have done anything. I see. Thanks for explaining. Always a pleasure to "talk" with you. Best regards, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 1999 Report Share Posted June 16, 1999 > "Amanda Erhart" <mumblecat > > > On Sat, 12 Jun 1999 00:49:23 jb wrote: [...] Living as a hermit, > >one can't be aware of deviating from the "norm" unless someone notices it > >and makes a remark. > > That certainly sounds to be the case. > > If "Man is the measure of all things", what about > a man who has no one with which to compare himself. There have been tribes where birthday and age have been unknown and regarding enjoying life, behavior and physical fitness, grey hair didn't make any difference, the only difference being wisdom. The same happens if one is a hermit and K. improves things quite a bit The "measure of things" becomes "the end of the road" which would be rather impossible amidst society. > >The existence of a kind of happiness, having the > >equal effect as fulfilling all desires simultaneously, is the > only "built-in > >by nature" guarantee to prevent this destruction. I am sure that the > >requirements for active K., self-consciousness and the ability > to transform > >instinctual energy, can be found in other species too. > > Maybe, in some of the other simian species. Bonobos perhaps. > Whenever I look in the eyes of a chimp, I definitely > see an I looking back. What would be the reason dolphins are so friendly toward humans, despite the fact that human behavior isn't mutual? [..] > Many children may be K active from birth, only to > shut down at a later stage. > > I can't believe the things I experienced as a child > was very unique among children. > > Some children (under age 7) seems to pick up on the > K, unknown children smile and wave at me on the street. One of my sisters must have had an active K. from birth on but the opening closed. She saw things other people couldn't see; the kind of things that would have lead to shamanic development. [...] > I think some new and "impossible" connections > from the brain stem to the cerebral cortex are made > and activated also under the influence of K. There is an area I couldn't explore to the full. The absence of feeling gravity without functional impairment for instance; this cannot be induced by any drug. > >Again, from an evolutionary point of view, investing extra > >"mind-power" without a guarantee against abuse would be unlikely. To me, > >there wasn't a choice but to use the "extra" for sadhana itself; > it has been > >rather rewarding. > > Do you mean to say the extra energy had to find an > outlet by itself ? Yes, and obviously it did. Almost by itself, everything was done to maximize K. activity. There have been days where I went to work, went into samadhi while working and having returned home, had no remembrance of what happened The next day, it appeared that functioning had been normal... >[..] > Always a pleasure to "talk" with you. > > Best regards, > > Amanda. The pleasure is mutual. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 1999 Report Share Posted June 17, 1999 In a message dated 6/16/1999 8:39:57 PM Atlantic Daylight Time, kvy9 writes: << 3 kinds of tantra: 1. LH: left hand 2. RH: right hand 3. path of the Kaula sect. The last one can roughly be equate with Kundalini yoga. >> Jan, as far as I know all schools of Tantra involve working on the energy centers and raising the Kundalini Shakti in some way. Historically, practices have differed among the schools with everyone claiming their school to teach about the highest, etc. Swami Rama, a good friend of my teacher was an advocate of Samaya, a purely yogic path, leading to the union of Shiva and Shakti in the Sahasarara. The Himalayan Institute that he founded focuses on the Sri Vidya tradition. This is a substantive topic and might merit some discussion on the main list. Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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