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--- jb <kvy9 wrote:

> "jb" <kvy9

>

> > Marcia Paul <jacpa

> >

> >

> >

> > jb wrote:

> >

> > >The Self doesn't have a location, whether inside

> or outside of

> > the body. But

> >

> > > there are some references to the spiritual heart

> (to the right

> > of the chakra

> > > on the axis) by Upanishads and Ramana . The

> third eye is connected with

> > > individuality and your question served as a

> reminder. When duality is no

> > > more (no "me"), there still is a sense of

> individuality and

> > this is referred

> > > to as +I+. However, in the course of events this

> "rest" individuality is

> > > transformed into what could be approximated as

> "radiant space" and it

> > > coincides with the absence of the third eye from

> what I call "observable

> > > pranic map". Anyway, this "radiant space" is

> devoid of any sense of

> > > individuality. No search was done for scriptural

> verification of this.

> >

> > Marcia:

> >

> > I got more than I bargained for when I asked that

> question.

> >

> > So Jan could we say that in the framework of

> needing to die

> > in order to be born but in order to die one has to

> wake up

> > first that it is the "third eye" that dies?

>

> The third eye isn't something to die. Strictly

> speaking it is a center,

> associated with certain states of consciousness

> (contents of consciousness)

> and nothing more. It would be incorrect to state it

> is the "location" of

> individuality.

 

when i am 'visioning' i often experience physical

sensations [quite indescribable] just behind my skull

at the center of my forehead - curiously the pineal

gland is thereabouts.

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/thirdeye.html

 

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>>Jan:

>> The third eye isn't something to die. Strictly

>> speaking it is a center,

>> associated with certain states of consciousness

>> (contents of consciousness)

>> and nothing more. It would be incorrect to state it

>> is the "location" of

>> individuality.

>

>Ethan:

>when i am 'visioning' i often experience physical

>sensations [quite indescribable] just behind my skull

>at the center of my forehead - curiously the pineal

>gland is thereabouts.

 

We usually consider the pituitary gland to be the externalization of the

forehead center or ajna... and the pineal gland of the crown center or

sahasrara.

 

I understand the actual "third eye" to be the major head centers when they

are all active, at least to some extent, and functioning together as one

big "head center." It is said that when the lights of the major head

centers join together, there is a large and bright light in the head. This

"head center" could be said to look out through ajna (and thus the eye

pictured in the forehead) and to look upward through sahasrara.

 

The DK/Bailey books say the third major head center is the Alta Major, and

its externalization is the carotid gland.

 

I was taught to open a person's third eye by directing energy through the

forehead, through ajna/pituitary, through sahasrara/pineal, and then

angling downward... which would connect with the Alta Major.

 

Love,

Dharma

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