Body and Soul

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"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar

Bruce Morgen <editor

 

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

and J. Krishnamurti both

died of cancer.

 

 

Harsha: Thanks for reminding us Bruce. So did Ramana Maharshi and so did

Ramakrishna Paramhansa. Fortunate are those who hear of the pure teaching of

the Self. Even more fortunate are those who understand it. They remain

unperturbed by the force of imagination and recognize the stillness that is

ever present in all conditions of the body and the mind.

 

 

 

jb [kvy9]

Friday, June 18, 1999 7:02 AM

nondual;

Re: [NondualitySalon] Homage to Suzanne Segal

 

"jb" <kvy9

> Melody <melody

[...]

> Melody:

> I'm still crying from having read this. On

> one level I have always felt this to be

> true for those of us who have childhood,

> or wartime, trauma issues. And on the other

> hand, it puts right in front of me, a lingering

> fear waiting to be faced.

>

> Most of us learn to 'split off', so as not

> to be present for the abuse or trauma.

 

One won't go far with a trauma. Sooner or later is has to be faced. By not

addressing it, it works like a slow poison. It affects one's entire life.

Because one has gotten accustomed to live with it, the burden can only be

felt when it is gone.

> Of literally hundreds of incidents, I can only remember being

> 'present' for

> two of them.

>

> This shakes me so much now because these past

> few weeks I have become aware of the times I'm

> not present. And not just 'not being awake', but

> not being present at all it seems....having

> absolutely no memory of a certain activity.

 

Having no memory of an activity isn't a problem at all. Many activities are

habits that are executed automatically. Who would remember the number of

times to have pulled the brake on a trip with the car?

> Twice this week I had very short nightmares...

> dreaming someone had broken into my home, and

> were coming towards me....and then I wake up.

>

> It feels very much related somehow, and timely.

> (I've had maybe only 3 other nightmares my

> entire life, so having 2 this week is indeed

> significant.)

 

I know three reasons for nightmares: trauma, heavy meal before sleeping and

predicting in relation to sadhana.

> On one hand what Suzanne experienced confirms

> my own sensings. But on the other....and I'm

> glad I have become 'shame'-less.....I'm am

> afraid. Afraid I won't 'gather up' all of me

> in time. In time for what? I'm not sure.

> What part of me? I don't know that either.

> This is just what the fear says.

 

If so, the fear could be called "precursor of the fear of death". The lesson

from this fear is always, to accept fears and deal with them properly.

> I touched upon this a bit with one of my

> posts a few days ago, but this thread here

> seemed to totally blow down the door.

 

The message is always that as a personality, one only lives once whereas the

Impersonal is immortal.

> I realize this may not be the least bit logical

> or rational. But I could surely use some

> help right now.

 

But it is rational. Spiritual life isn't for cowards and this means one has

to face all fears and traumas. One cannot run or fight them and one cannot

hide from them - one has to face them. Grace means, you'll receive a

reminder now and then to do just that.

> I offer this here because I am clear that

> not only will someone have the words I'm

> ready to hear, but that this may 'speak to'

> someone else, as well.

>

> Melody

 

Abuse is widespread so traumas are likely. But the worst trauma is caused by

the process of dying itself. In a sadhana, clearing traumas and other fears

should have priority.

 

Jan

 

 

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