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Tim Gerchmez [fewtch]

Wednesday, June 23, 1999 1:46 AM

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Re: [ACOWPAL] definition

 

Tim Gerchmez <fewtch

 

At 10:03 PM 6/22/99 -0400, you wrote:

>"Linda Callanan" <shastra

>

>Dear List:

>

>I had reason today to go to the Sanskrit dictionary and look up the meaning

>of 'ahimsa'. The official definition of this Sanskrit word is

>"Harmlessness, abstaining from killing or giving pain to others in thought,

>word or deed".

>

>One can take this concept to great lengths if he chooses to do so. Guess

>there is more to it than simply not eating a Big Mac :).

 

That could only be true. It's especially interesting to look at the idea

of Ahimsa as related to thought and word (deed seems more self-evident).

Those who feel they have enemies and think of them coming to harm are

violating the principle of Ahimsa. Those who simply make a cutting remark

that causes hurt to another are violating the principle of Ahimsa. He who

swears at another driver, calling him or her an idiot, while in an

automobile, is violating the principle of Ahimsa. He who harbors even a

single harmful thought toward another is violating the principle of Ahimsa.

And why not? We are all One in the Absolute, thus he who harms another

harms himself. There is no concept of evil at all in nonduality, only

ignorance. Thus, if one being is more ignorant than another, why does that

being deserve our scorn? Perhaps at some time, in some incarnation we were

cockroaches infesting a building. Perhaps we were stepped on and crushed

for the simple reason that we wished to survive in whatever way we could.

All beings are trying to survive as best they can. Shall we then step upon

them for that simple divine urge to live as well as they know how?

 

With Love,

 

Tim

 

Thanks Linda and very beautiful post Tim. Ahimsa is an important notion and

needs discussion. What does it really mean? Thank you for those thoughts Tim

and I will post them on a. Mahavira, the great Jaina prophet

of nonviolence and 24th Tirthankara said that all life wants to live and

grow. All life has that urge. So let us mutually support each other knowing

the same life and stillness lies within all.

 

Love to all

Harsha

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Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) wrote:

> Tim Gerchmez <fewtch

> >"Linda Callanan" <shastra

> >

> >Dear List:

> >

> >I had reason today to go to the Sanskrit dictionary and look up the meaning

> >of 'ahimsa'. The official definition of this Sanskrit word is

> >"Harmlessness, abstaining from killing or giving pain to others in thought,

> >word or deed".

> >

> >One can take this concept to great lengths if he chooses to do so. Guess

> >there is more to it than simply not eating a Big Mac :).

>

> That could only be true. It's especially interesting to look at the idea

> of Ahimsa as related to thought and word (deed seems more self-evident).

> Those who feel they have enemies and think of them coming to harm are

> violating the principle of Ahimsa. Those who simply make a cutting remark

> that causes hurt to another are violating the principle of Ahimsa. He who

> swears at another driver, calling him or her an idiot, while in an

> automobile, is violating the principle of Ahimsa. He who harbors even a

> single harmful thought toward another is violating the principle of Ahimsa.

> And why not? We are all One in the Absolute, thus he who harms another

> harms himself. There is no concept of evil at all in nonduality, only

> ignorance. Thus, if one being is more ignorant than another, why does that

> being deserve our scorn? Perhaps at some time, in some incarnation we were

> cockroaches infesting a building. Perhaps we were stepped on and crushed

> for the simple reason that we wished to survive in whatever way we could.

> All beings are trying to survive as best they can. Shall we then step upon

> them for that simple divine urge to live as well as they know how?

>

> With Love,

>

> Tim

>

> Thanks Linda and very beautiful post Tim. Ahimsa is an important notion and

> needs discussion. What does it really mean? Thank you for those thoughts Tim

> and I will post them on a. Mahavira, the great Jaina prophet

> of nonviolence and 24th Tirthankara said that all life wants to live and

> grow. All life has that urge. So let us mutually support each other knowing

> the same life and stillness lies within all.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

 

Greetings for those on ACOWPAL, and hello to all,

 

Ahimsa also becomes interesting to look at as an approach in healing.

Just thinking of the relations one maintains between agents of is body

and "enemies" of it's body, like, in sickness, AID or cancer cells or

simply like distorting vibrations of the environment may be to the the

body. Thinking ones has enemies is a process to observe way deep within.

It's interesting to observe how being sick may develop into a contagious

things, as well as being healthy. Could Ahinsa be contagious as health

is?

 

Also can the All, be anything else than healthy? If such a concept may

apply to it. And what makes one individual come to believe that it is

not the case, if it is so.

 

In deep Love,

 

Antoine

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