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In a message dated 7/4/99 9:16:56 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

fewtch writes:

 

<< Yes. And I say when you know acknowledge your knowing.

 

But... what if the knowing is such that there is nobody there to

acknowledge it?

 

Hari OM,

 

Tim >>

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Until there is nobody, I am there.

 

Papji told this story:

 

"Some people came to me and said, 'Some of your

students are going around saying they are enlightened.'"

He laughed his famous outrageous laughter and said,

"I told them, 'That's better than them going around

saying they are not enlightened!'"

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In a message dated 7/4/99 9:40:23 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

david.bozzi writes:

 

<< I would surely trust the one who proclaimed oneself as unenlightened

over the one who said they were.

 

The one who proclaims enlightenment with his tongue is lying.

 

Blessings,

David

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One who proclaims he is not enlightened is also lying.

 

Xan

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> But... what if the knowing is such that there is nobody there to

> acknowledge it?

 

 

You call your mom.

 

(that's what I did)

 

Love,

xxxtg

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In a message dated 7/4/99 11:50:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

david.bozzi writes:

> Xanma wrote:

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> > One who proclaims he is not enlightened is also lying.

>

> I am unenlightened.

> If you say I am lying, I ask do the enlightened lie?

 

 

Only while sleeping.

 

Love,

xxxtg

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Xanma wrote:

> Papji told this story:

>

> "Some people came to me and said, 'Some of your

> students are going around saying they are enlightened.'"

> He laughed his famous outrageous laughter and said,

> "I told them, 'That's better than them going around

> saying they are not enlightened!'"

 

I would surely trust the one who proclaimed oneself as unenlightened

over the one who said they were.

 

The one who proclaims enlightenment with his tongue is lying.

 

Blessings,

David

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Xanma wrote:

> One who proclaims he is not enlightened is also lying.

 

I am unenlightened.

If you say I am lying, I ask do the enlightened lie?

 

Blessings,

David

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