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Dear Greg,

 

MU.

 

With Love,

 

Tim

 

At 04:46 PM 7/8/99 -0400, you wrote:

>Greg Goode <goode

>

>At 11:49 AM 7/8/99 -0700, Tim Gerchmez wrote:

>

>>> Q: Is there any such thing as an enlightened individual?

>>

>>No, absolutely not. There cannot be an enlightened individual, as

>>individuality disappears upon enlightenment, to be replaced by the

>>Universal or Absolute. An "enlightened person" is essentially God walking

>>around in a body/mind complex.

>

>This sounds very exciting at first glance, but can it really be the way you

>describe it?

>

>That is, if individuality really disappears, then it must really exist the

>first place. But you know, from Advaita Vedanta, that if anything REALLY

>exists, including maya or avidya, then it can't NOT exist. So, according

>to that line of thinking, nothing can disappear.

>

>Continuing with the same line of inquiry, nothing can replace something,

>because for the new thing (Universal/Absolute) to be present "after," it

>can't have been absent in the first place.

>

>Also, how can God be in a body/mind? Is God more in some places than

>others? Actually, for God to have any relationship at all (other than

>identity) with body/minds, then there have to be body/minds separate from

>God. Are there such things? For example, to be able to say anything like

>the following, there must be God the body/mind existing separately:

>

> God is in the body/mind.

> God pervades the body/mind.

> The body/mind appears in God's awareness.

>

>One way to say it that avoids many of these problems is that there is no

>enlightenment, no individual, no enlightened individual, and no

>unenlightened individual. All there is, is light.

>

>--Greg

 

 

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