Guest guest Posted July 30, 1999 Report Share Posted July 30, 1999 Hi All! "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" wrote: > Harsha: Everyone follows the spiritual practice that they are inclined > towards. In truth, the Guru is only the Heart, One's Own Self. Therefore, no > external medium is required for contact. However, without perfect > recognition of the Self, there is duality and maya appears as something > happening outside. The Guru then appears as part of that Maya and instructs > the devotee to be aware of his true nature. The Sage of Arunachala has > beautifully stated that just as an elephant wakes up upon seeing the fierce > lion in his dream, the devotee upon seeing the Guru in his dream wakes up. Oh I like this very much Harsha! Well spoken. You have asked me to share more here so I will .. hmmmm :-) Let it be known that I have been part of a movement with a technique that is like a rocketship to transcendence. The leader has never set Himself up to be adored and treated as the source of Knowledge - always we are told Self is the source the course an the goal - and transcend thought, to Know Self (as All that). Anyways of course there is a whole movement who seem to give away their power towards Him whilst they are becoming Self sufficient .. It is simply loving respect and no adoration but the teachers you know seem clingy. Anyway I am lucky because my initiator (teacher known since 18 now I'm 42) is the one who was always far far ahead of all the rest. A far out dude - realised. Anyway it has always been ok to go to him as myself and actually get verification it was ok to grow and expand the way I have been. The teachers know so little and only say a few memorised lines, which frustrate and disappoint. If I've been initiated through a walk through the chasm of fire - on a razor's edge I damn well should be able to get some support during and verification I wasn't going mad. He was the only one after I pushed him who verified it is natural part of the process. Anyway some years ago I went and asked "Is it ok to see oneself as guru?" (as I was becoming more aware and reliant on an inner silence, which messages, guiding through one, as one,s Self .. he said It was ok and true, Guru is within. As you can imagine many would think that blasphemy or egotistic to even say that. But it is sacred and true. Once that connection to the silences Is .. then We Are It! Byee, Col ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 1999 Report Share Posted July 30, 1999 If you spell 'GURU' you get 'gee - you - are - you' and the translation of 'gu - ru' is literally 'dispeller of darkness' With Respect Christopher Wynter, Hobart Tasmania wynter http://www.anunda.com _______ 'anunda list' Public Archive: /viewarchive.cgi?listname=anunda ____________________ - Colette T <colette < > Saturday, 31 July 1999 9:39 real jivanmukti > Colette T <colette > > Hi All! > > "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" wrote: > > > Harsha: Everyone follows the spiritual practice that they are inclined > > towards. In truth, the Guru is only the Heart, One's Own Self. Therefore, no > > external medium is required for contact. However, without perfect > > recognition of the Self, there is duality and maya appears as something > > happening outside. The Guru then appears as part of that Maya and instructs > > the devotee to be aware of his true nature. The Sage of Arunachala has > > beautifully stated that just as an elephant wakes up upon seeing the fierce > > lion in his dream, the devotee upon seeing the Guru in his dream wakes up. > > Oh I like this very much Harsha! Well spoken. > > You have asked me to share more here so I will .. hmmmm :-) > > Let it be known that I have been part of a movement with a technique that is > like a rocketship to transcendence. The leader has never set Himself up to be > adored and treated as the source of Knowledge - always we are told Self is the > source the course an the goal - and transcend thought, to Know Self (as All > that). > > Anyways of course there is a whole movement who seem to give away their power > towards Him whilst they are becoming Self sufficient .. It is simply loving > respect and no adoration but the teachers you know seem clingy. > > Anyway I am lucky because my initiator (teacher known since 18 now I'm 42) is > the one who was always far far ahead of all the rest. A far out dude - > realised. > > Anyway it has always been ok to go to him as myself and actually get > verification it was ok to grow and expand the way I have been. The teachers know > so little and only say a few memorised lines, which frustrate and disappoint. > > If I've been initiated through a walk through the chasm of fire - on a razor's > edge I damn well should be able to get some support during and verification I > wasn't going mad. He was the only one after I pushed him who verified it is > natural part of the process. > > Anyway some years ago I went and asked "Is it ok to see oneself as guru?" (as I > was becoming more aware and reliant on an inner silence, which messages, guiding > through one, as one,s Self .. he said It was ok and true, Guru is within. > > As you can imagine many would think that blasphemy or egotistic to even say > that. But it is sacred and true. Once that connection to the silences Is .. then > We Are It! > > Byee, > > Col > ~*~ > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > ONElist: your connection to online communities. > > ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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