Guest guest Posted August 4, 1999 Report Share Posted August 4, 1999 At 07:00 PM 8/4/99 , Christopher Wynter wrote: referring to those who, from a Western Physiology seek to impose an Eastern >belief or symbology on top of the beliefs which are already held within >the body >... without recognising the existance of those beliefs ... I think this is a fascinating point, and am intrigued at though not surprised by your findings about how the Western symbols stay imbedded, in spite of an Eastern belief system taken on. From the experience of many of my friends, the Eastern paths are chosen not only because they are thought to take one closer to the Truth, but also to escape the negative emotions laid on from their native religion. So people come to Eastern paths from Christianity, Judaism and Psychology to escape guilt, lack of self-esteem, perhaps fear, and the rest of the heavy overhead and negative associations that go with being raised in the tradition. They get a clean slate in Hinduism, Yoga, Buddhism, Vedanta, etc. Doesn't mean their childhood symbols are no longer powerful for them. I know a man who left Christianity for Vedanta, having stayed with Vedanta from age 40 to 82. He STILL dreads meeting St. Peter at the pearly gates when he dies. >The focus of my words > >is to lead those who choose >to understand (perhaps some) of the possible reasons why they experience what >they do during the awakening of the energy of one expressing .... > >and, from the reactions of many who reply, I would, again from my experience, >suggest the possibility that there is something in what I say (or how I >say it) >that is triggering re-actions ... which means that there is some hidden memory >that is being awakened ... Are you referring to several people on this list saying that your posts seemed to sound like advertising? Are you saying that our mentioning the mild marketing tone is from re-actions and hidden memories being awakened? With love, --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 1999 Report Share Posted August 5, 1999 Greg Goode wrote: > I think this is a fascinating point, and am intrigued at though not > surprised by your findings about how the Western symbols stay > imbedded, in spite of an Eastern belief system taken on. From the > experience of many of my friends, the Eastern paths are chosen not > only because they are thought to take one closer to the Truth, but > also to escape the negative emotions laid on from their native > religion. So people come to Eastern paths from Christianity, Judaism > and Psychology to escape guilt, lack of self-esteem, perhaps fear, and > the rest of the heavy overhead and negative associations that go with > being raised in the tradition. They get a clean slate in Hinduism, > Yoga, Buddhism, Vedanta, etc. Doesn't mean their childhood symbols > are no longer powerful for them. I know a man who left Christianity > for Vedanta, having stayed with Vedanta from age 40 to 82. He STILL > dreads meeting St. Peter at the pearly gates when he dies. Marcia: It makes sense. All this stuff was laid down in the cells of the body long before we had words. It seems like it was laid down in layers some closer to the center than others. I have heard it said that one has to go back through the religion of one's birth to get to the center. So much of it was through the expression on people's faces and the attitude they held in their body. I mean the significant persons in an child's life and didn't have much to do with the religion itself. At the core of every religion is beauty and truth. It is people not religion that cause the difficulties. In my opinion we need both East and West. Anytime one denies a part of themself in order to get a "clean slate" it is just repression. That person is still doing what it is they think they are escaping from. A person IS their history. The Gospels are beautiful and contain the Keys to the Kingdom. It seems to me like it becomes a sort of "the grass is greener on the other side of the hill" kind of thing to think you have to travel the world over and learn a foreign religion only to find what is already in your Heart. Ram Dass came to the same conclusion as have many others. Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 1999 Report Share Posted August 5, 1999 >Marcia: > >It makes sense. All this stuff was laid down in the cells of >the body long before we had words. It seems like it was >laid down in layers some closer to the center than others. >I have heard it said that one has to go back through the >religion of one's birth to get to the center. So much of it >was through the expression on people's faces and the >attitude they held in their body. I mean the significant >persons in an child's life and didn't have much to do with >the religion itself. > >At the core of every religion is beauty and truth. It is >people not religion that cause the difficulties. In my >opinion we need both East and West. Anytime one >denies a part of themself in order to get a "clean slate" >it is just repression. That person is still doing what it >is they think they are escaping from. A person IS >their history. > >The Gospels are beautiful and contain the Keys to >the Kingdom. > >It seems to me like it becomes a sort of "the grass is >greener on the other side of the hill" kind of thing to >think you have to travel the world over and learn a >foreign religion only to find what is already in your >Heart. Ram Dass came to the same conclusion as >have many others. > >Marcia What a beautifully expressed thought to end my day with. Thank you for it....and to All a good night. :-) Melody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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