Guest guest Posted September 15, 1999 Report Share Posted September 15, 1999 I am sincerely sorry for posting such an angry post to this sating. Andrew Hey, we love you Andrew. You too Tony, and everyone else (as long as you all behave :-) Here is what Bruce said a while back............................................. >From Bruce Morgan: The veil both hides and hints at the beauty behind it. That which confers beauty on the veil is none other than the bride. The illusion is not the veil, but the notion that there is nothing other than the veil. And TG said, "Fake it until you make it! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 1999 Report Share Posted September 15, 1999 Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) wrote: > > "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > > I am sincerely sorry for posting such an angry post to this sating. > > Andrew > > Hey, we love you Andrew. You too Tony, and everyone else (as long as you all > behave :-) Thanks Harsha, I do feel the love here. andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 1999 Report Share Posted September 15, 1999 Jan Barendrecht wrote: > > "Jan Barendrecht" <janb > > On 9/15/99 at 6:51 AM andrew macnab wrote: > > >andrew macnab wrote: > >> > >> Yeah right Tony. Who gets there fucking head chopped off in > E.Timor? > >> It's you/me Ha!Ha! (no separation here) > >> > >> andrew > >> > >I am sincerely sorry for posting such an angry post to this > satsang. > > > >andrew > > Why are you sorry Andrew? In a certain sense you are right. > Because life is a whole, what happens to one creature has an > effect on all creatures. In this respect, Ahimsa could be > called sensible self-interest; sooner or later one will meet > one or more "mental layers" that could be called "collective > storehouse of suffering" and "crossing" them is no fun. Karma > is a complex matter. In the East, it is often considered as > fate and nothing is done. In the West, the mentality is that > of "doing", ignoring that once an avalanche is rolling, > nothing can be done to prevent the damage. Ahimsa is the > science to prevent formation of avalanches. In mathematics, > equations can have more than one root; violent death doesn't > have to happen, even those caused by natural catastrophes > could be prevented (a matter of priority in spending $). > > Jan > I'm just sorry to bring anger into satsang. If something terrible is happening to me personally and I accept it as karma, that's fine and noble. But if I see thousands of children being hacked to pieces, then I have a hard time accepting that it's their karma, all is as it should be. andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 1999 Report Share Posted September 15, 1999 >andrew macnab <a.macnab > . . . If something >terrible is happening to me personally and I accept it as >karma, that's fine and noble. But if I see thousands of >children being hacked to pieces, then I have a hard time >accepting that it's their karma, all is as it should be. > >andrew I totally agree with you, Andrew. I reject the "all is as it should be" belief as vehemently as I reject Calvinist predestination. Choices are real, and evil must be fought with as much energy as we seek to dispel ignorance. -- Max --------------------------- FREE - yourname - Visit http://www.philosophers.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 1999 Report Share Posted September 15, 1999 On 9/15/99 at 12:48 PM andrew macnab wrote: [...] >I'm just sorry to bring anger into satsang. If something >terrible is happening to me personally and I accept it as >karma, that's fine and noble. But if I see thousands of >children being hacked to pieces, then I have a hard time >accepting that it's their karma, all is as it should be. > >andrew One can only see in others what is "present" in oneself. Only if one is able to be angry, one will see anger in others. If not, the sight is very different; something not to be conveyed in words but has to be experienced. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 1999 Report Share Posted September 15, 1999 On 9/15/99 at 9:50 AM Max Harris wrote: [...] >I totally agree with you, Andrew. I reject the >"all is as it should be" belief as vehemently >as I reject Calvinist predestination. > >Choices are real, and evil must be fought with as >much energy as we seek to dispel ignorance. > >-- Max So why not deeds instead of mere words and become a "freedom fighter"? There are many cases like Eastern Timor going on and several are in Indonesia. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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