Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 ----Original Message----- Greg Goode [goode] Friday, September 17, 1999 12:42 PM NondualitySalon ; NondualitySalon Re: [NondualitySalon] Bruce/RE: Tim/Petros/Re: Mikaire Harsha and Judi, Let's go into the guru production business. We know what sells. We know who's buying. We know how to package. We know the contacts. We probably know people in various media businesses. Swami Timananda can be first one out of the box! Harsha: Good Idea Greg. And you are wise and funny! Glad to see you got your thinking hat on today! :-) We should market our Swami and give Him various titles, at least one a month (despite His strong protestations, or gentle acceptance or whatever - which would be publicized in our infomercial to show His humility). The great Swami (Selected from the Swami contest to be held) would have to often insist that He is really no body at all and knows absolutely nothing. Paradoxically though, at other times, He would have to openly declare that He is the Primordial Being and should be worshipped. If scandals with Him and His female disciples become public, the usual logic that Swami is beyond societal norms and simply beyond and even more beyond (far out and far gone) would be appropriate, as it has worked well for other gurus. We just need to set the rules now for the Swami contest (of course, the whole thing will be fixed - who are we kidding here :-). Once the Swami is selected, the publicity machine could go in full swing. The other gurus will be left in the dust. Can we get Richard Gere or someone famous to become a disciple. That would help! Mary Tyler Moore came to my yoga class a few times couple of decades ago, but we never really got to know each other and so have not kept in touch. Any other bright ideas will be welcome. :-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 Harsha and Judi, Let's go into the guru production business. We know what sells. We know who's buying. We know how to package. We know the contacts. We probably know people in various media businesses. Swami Timananda can be first one out of the box! Harsha: Good Idea Greg. And you are wise and funny! Glad to see you got your thinking hat on today! :-) We should market our Swami and give Him various titles, at least one a month (despite His strong protestations, or gentle acceptance or whatever - which would be publicized in our infomercial to show His humility). The great Swami (Selected from the Swami contest to be held) would have to often insist that He is really no body at all and knows absolutely nothing. Paradoxically though, at other times, He would have to openly declare that He is the Primordial Being and should be worshipped. If scandals with Him and His female disciples become public, the usual logic that Swami is beyond societal norms and simply beyond and even more beyond (far out and far gone) would be appropriate, as it has worked well for other gurus. We just need to set the rules now for the Swami contest (of course, the whole thing will be fixed - who are we kidding here :-). Once the Swami is selected, the publicity machine could go in full swing. The other gurus will be left in the dust. Can we get Richard Gere or someone famous to become a disciple. That would help! Mary Tyler Moore came to my yoga class a few times couple of decades ago, but we never really got to know each other and so have not kept in touch. Any other bright ideas will be welcome. :-). ivan: Yes, and we must keep a list going on, where we must discuss the qualities of diferent Swamis and Teachers, their habits, and way of life. But at the same time we must not forget to through in the habitual "don´t follow anybody stuff " , cos that´s suposed to be said....they all say it. And let´s not forget the books list, cos you are all gods, but if you read them, you´ll become even more holly. After all it takes lots of time to get out of time!! LOL LOL LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 > > Harsha: Good Idea Greg. And you are wise and funny! Glad to see you got >your thinking hat on today! :-) We should market our Swami and give Him >various titles, at least one a month (despite His strong protestations, or >gentle acceptance or whatever - which would be publicized in our infomercial >to show His humility). > > The great Swami (Selected from the Swami contest to be held) would have to >often insist that He is really no body at all and knows absolutely nothing. >Paradoxically though, at other times, He would have to openly declare that >He is the Primordial Being and should be worshipped. > > If scandals with Him and His female disciples become public, the usual >logic that Swami is beyond societal norms and simply beyond and even more >beyond (far out and far gone) would be appropriate, as it has worked well >for other gurus. We just need to set the rules now for the Swami contest (of >course, the whole thing will be fixed - who are we kidding here :-). Once >the Swami is selected, the publicity machine could go in full swing. The >other gurus will be left in the dust. > > Can we get Richard Gere or someone famous to become a disciple. That >would help! Mary Tyler Moore came to my yoga class a few times couple of >decades ago, but we never really got to know each other and so have not kept >in touch. Any other bright ideas will be welcome. :-). > Hey, if you want moviestars, it helps to recognize them as reincarnated lamas. Put someone in charge of the research for this, so we get authentic names from the past. (Unlike Madame Blavatsky who appears to have made them up, people expect the real thing nowadays.) In order to do my share for the cause, I volunteer for the disciple scandal, regardless of who is chosen for Swami. If that ain't devotion, what is?? Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 At 10:16 AM 9/20/99 , ivan wrote: >ivan: Yes, and we must keep a list going on, where we must discuss >>the qualities of diferent Swamis and Teachers, their habits, and way >>of life. But at the same time we must not forget to through in the habitual >>"don´t follow anybody stuff " , cos that´s suposed to be said....they all >>say it. >>And let´s not forget the books list, cos you are all gods, but if you >>read them, >>you´ll become even more holly. After all it takes lots of time to get out >>of time!! LOL LOL LOL Yes, we can't forget the insistence upon telling people to be independent. We don't want our Swamis to be too easily accused of cultishness. Yet their hints to "follow me and my way" must be stronger, though indirect. We can tell the aspirants not to read books, yet tell them of the ageless wisdom to be found in the world's scriptures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 At 10:21 AM 9/20/99 , Gloria Lee wrote: Hey, if you want moviestars, it helps to recognize them as reincarnated >lamas. Put someone in charge of the research for this, so we get authentic >names from the past. (Unlike Madame Blavatsky who appears to have made them >up, people expect the real thing nowadays.) In order to do my share for the >cause, I volunteer for the disciple scandal, regardless of who is chosen for >Swami. If that ain't devotion, what is?? Is Petros on this list? If so, I'd nominate him to find celebrities and movie stars to use as reincarnations and devotees. I'll volunteer to write the PR flyers and the web page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 Greg Goode <goode < >; < > Monday, September 20, 1999 10:39 AM Re: The Swami Contest! >At 10:21 AM 9/20/99 , Gloria Lee wrote: > >Hey, if you want moviestars, it helps to recognize them as reincarnated >>lamas. Put someone in charge of the research for this, so we get authentic >>names from the past. (Unlike Madame Blavatsky who appears to have made them >>up, people expect the real thing nowadays.) In order to do my share for the >>cause, I volunteer for the disciple scandal, regardless of who is chosen for >>Swami. If that ain't devotion, what is?? > > >Is Petros on this list? If so, I'd nominate him to find celebrities and >movie stars to use as reincarnations and devotees. I'll volunteer to write >the PR flyers and the web page. Let's just skip reality all together and go for a fabricated web page, its kinda a tabloid religion anyway. Our swami can be a reclusive hermit who is never seen in person. We who are his followers may or may not have actually been allowed into his presence, but we can all make up very moving accounts of the effects and write up his "messages" for the web page. Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 In a message dated 9/20/99 6:05:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, hluthar writes: << Harsha and Judi, Let's go into the guru production business. We know what sells. We know who's buying. We know how to package. We know the contacts. We probably know people in various media businesses. Swami Timananda can be first one out of the box! Harsha: Good Idea Greg. And you are wise and funny! Glad to see you got your thinking hat on today! :-) We should market our Swami and give Him various titles, at least one a month (despite His strong protestations, or gentle acceptance or whatever - which would be publicized in our infomercial to show His humility). The great Swami (Selected from the Swami contest to be held) would have to often insist that He is really no body at all and knows absolutely nothing. Paradoxically though, at other times, He would have to openly declare that He is the Primordial Being and should be worshipped. If scandals with Him and His female disciples become public, the usual logic that Swami is beyond societal norms and simply beyond and even more beyond (far out and far gone) would be appropriate, as it has worked well for other gurus. We just need to set the rules now for the Swami contest (of course, the whole thing will be fixed - who are we kidding here :-). Once the Swami is selected, the publicity machine could go in full swing. The other gurus will be left in the dust. Can we get Richard Gere or someone famous to become a disciple. That would help! Mary Tyler Moore came to my yoga class a few times couple of decades ago, but we never really got to know each other and so have not kept in touch. Any other bright ideas will be welcome. :-). >> Dear Greg: Not only is this a great idea, but we can also produce and direct the Movie of the Life of the Swami, and then, as a much later follow-up, the Movie that Reveals the Secret Creation of the Swami...sure to create yet another wave of controversy and intense public interest in all things related to His Beyondedness. I am willing to throw my Fez into the ring, my credentials as a "deep thinkerwit" and "half wit" being, I believe, unquestioned. However, we might need to come up with some real good explanation for my olive complexion as opposed to more traditional Eastern tones. Ah, perhaps I was simply struck by the Divine Illumination as I sat regarding the shoes of one of the great Yogi Sages or someone. If they were boots, all the better, since I am a "Bootist" anyway. I think that I agree with Greg that controversies and "shocking affairs" must be staged and arranged as timed events whenever public attention seems to drift away from the Guru. It is also very possible to create linkages with these many nubile young ladies with opposing groups and factions, in order to plant the seed (no pun intended...oh sure it was!) that they "seduced" the Great One ("GO" one letter short of God...the "Great One") has a nice power to it. Mahatanji...the "Great One!" He's the Real Thing. Things GO better with GO. GO for it! Ah, the possibilities are truly endless. Since I have worked on successful Congressional campaigns drafting media ads and ideas, I think that I can contribute a great deal to this team. Consider me an inside insider. It is also important to have a sensational "public introduction" of the Great One. He must have spent 30+ years in obscurity...wandering deserts or malls...seeking the answer. Now he has found it. Instead of the Tao, he only talks about "IT." He's the "It Guy." I think healing sick people is a bit passe in this day of wonder drugs, religious crusades, etc., but raising the dead still gets some attention. So, we arrange to have a clinically dead person there at the Public Unveiling and the Great One merely breathes on the body and it begins to slowly show Brain wave, then EKG activity. With the right doctors and equipment, this is easily arranged, but you might need a good yogi to play the part of the "dead one" just so that no outward bodily motion can be discerned. If possible, he should have some Siddhi abilities and piercing his hand or arm with a needle should be possible and clearly shown to the audience, with no bleeding. If we can get the same doctors to sign a death certificate a day earlier, even better. The Great One should also be able to recognize the "true identities" of complete strangers, from past life memory. He will embrace them tearfully, "Oh my dear Sister Vajnadani!" he might exclaim. We could also easily make a robe or Sari that could have a very high voltage electrostatic generator built into it (very miniature is now possible) with a discharge path available to the Swami, via one sleeve and a hidden switch in the opposite sleeve. Then, he could discharge foot long visible sparks with his outstretched arm and finger to things such as metal statues, objects, and even people as a powerful version of Shaktipat! I think he would best have a reasonable length finger nail on that index finger to minimize the "zap" effect to himself. He could also hold his palm over someone's head and cause their hair to stand on end. Very good visual proof of his enlightened powers. Later, some crazed fanatics should attempt to kill him. He could be rushed to a private hospital...and slowly recover from what doctors describe as "certainly fatal wounds" He forgives the would be assassins and they are overcome with remorse and become devout followers. We must also think of some endearing, human habit or pass time for the Great One...such as collecting thimbles, etc., so that devotees will have something to Search For and send to the Guru for blessings. Thimbles are cute, but have so little real value...maybe hummels would be better, or better yet, rare coins. Since he only enjoys collecting them, no one could accuse him of materiality...he is simply performing the devout service of removing these distractions from the ignorant, materialistic, greedy and unenlightened. Also, a series of books, of his teachings. "The Great One Speaks" followed by dozens of books with the GO speaking about every other religion or sect on Earth. It will appeal to someone, eventually. He must reveal some "secret" core belief or mystery about each religion and sect. Blessings Love, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 In a message dated 9/20/99 7:14:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, glee writes: << Hey, if you want moviestars, it helps to recognize them as reincarnated lamas. Put someone in charge of the research for this, so we get authentic names from the past. (Unlike Madame Blavatsky who appears to have made them up, people expect the real thing nowadays.) In order to do my share for the cause, I volunteer for the disciple scandal, regardless of who is chosen for Swami. If that ain't devotion, what is?? >> Dear Gloria: Glad I am not the only devoted volunteer for this project! I applaud your self sacrifice and dedication. I totally agree with the need for prior dedicated research. Past life proofs are so much easier to discover when they have been thoroughly worked out in advance. The Guru, who has never been to place "X" can insist that there is a holy relic buried there...(of course this has been researched in advance, and hopefully we have some follower locate the relic there some years before Swami if publicly recognized. The power of this method is the sheer audacity of it. People will believe the fabulous rather than the mundane because the mundane will be too audacious, well planned and industrious! Blessings Love, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 In a message dated 9/20/99 8:03:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, glee writes: << Let's just skip reality all together and go for a fabricated web page, its kinda a tabloid religion anyway. Our swami can be a reclusive hermit who is never seen in person. We who are his followers may or may not have actually been allowed into his presence, but we can all make up very moving accounts of the effects and write up his "messages" for the web page. >> Dear Gloria: This is effective as a sort of "Burma Shave" commercial venture, with many signs leading to the Guru, but it is useful only as a build up, just one phase in the entire planned assault on society. Done well, it could alter an entire generation's consciousness actually and truly. If the Guru is not authentic, who can say what is authentic or not if it gets results? Maybe Jesus at the last moment protested, "Hey, I am just an actor that the Essenes hired to play the part of the Messiah...I am not really the Messiah!" No disrespect intended...it is merely an example. Blessings Love, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 At 04:42 PM 9/20/99 , ZEN2WRK wrote: Wow, Zenbob, you've got it all mapped out! Did you mention a lineage? We can come up with something ancient, obscure and mysterious, impossible to verify or disprove. The East is beyond vast, and certainly has what we'd need. Then there's the costume. Long hair is a must. White is pretty good - in the West it symbolizes purity, and also attracts lots of attention. We can get white sneakers and a bomber jacket for Winter and white rollerblades for Summer ("Hey, SwamijiMahaJiGuruJi is just a regular gal,"), along with the requisite white robes, sandals, kirtan, etc. Failing white, it must be ochre or royal purple. Then the launching party. SwamijiMahaJiGuruJi can be discovered in very humble circumstances and be catapulted to fame. I've seen machinations like this happen before, with most onlookers and devotees unaware of the invisible hand behind the scenes. If it's Tim or Gloria, we'll probably need dialogue coaching, because a mainstream American accent is not very impressive or authoritative. I can coach on an Indian or Japanese accent. If we do a website, it must be done with very good and subdued taste, and be sensational without appearing to TRY to be sensational. We don't want accusations of egotism to fly about too soon. What else? --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 Greg Goode wrote: > If we do a website, it must be done with very good and subdued taste, and > be sensational without appearing to TRY to be sensational. We don't want > accusations of egotism to fly about too soon. > > What else? Well, if this hasn't already been mentioned, for sure, we'll need a live video cam following every non-move of our SwamijiMahaJiGuruJi. In the vein of "The Truman Show," I can see the suspense building over weeks, months, or even years with viewers anticipating the Spiritual Mellow Dramas unfolding day-to-day. And why not a little egotism flying around, adds some spice to the stew. Just as Sufi masters will act arrogant as a teaching tool, our SwamijiMahaJiGuruJi can do likewise as a teaching technique. There wouldn't be any shortage of sponsors and all the monies could go to ending hunger, education in birth control, family planning, sustainable agriculture. Raven > > > --Greg > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. The Radical Truth is Radiance of Awareness. It is Total Independence and Ever Present. The Truth needs no psychological or spiritual crutches. It needs no philosophy, no religion, no explanation, no teaching, and no teacher, and yet It is always their support. A true devotee relishes in the Truth. The Truth of Self-Knowledge which is Pure Intelligence. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 1999 Report Share Posted September 21, 1999 Life has no need to separate itself into authentic and non authentic teachers. It is only the mind that seeks proof of authenticity. When we can just accept life as it is, a totality, then all and everything is a legitimate teacher, teaching and responding precisely to what needs to be understood, taking advantage of the available capacity to understand at a given moment. There is only life teaching life. There is only life understanding life. My teacher is an authentic teacher, only when my mind has qualified him as such. Thank heavens Life doesn't care about my qualifications, because it teaches through every available resource. With love, Mira *Mirror* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from: ZEN2WRK > > In a message dated 9/20/99 8:03:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > glee writes: > > << Let's just skip reality all together and go for a fabricated web page, its > kinda a tabloid religion anyway. Our swami can be a reclusive hermit who is > never seen in person. We who are his followers may or may not have actually > been allowed into his presence, but we can all make up very moving accounts > of the effects and write up his "messages" for the web page. > >> > > Dear Gloria: > > This is effective as a sort of "Burma Shave" commercial venture, with many > signs leading to the Guru, but it is useful only as a build up, just one > phase in the entire planned assault on society. > Done well, it could alter an entire generation's consciousness actually and > truly. If the Guru is not authentic, who can say what is authentic or not if > it gets results? Maybe Jesus at the last moment protested, "Hey, I am just > an actor that the Essenes hired to play the part of the Messiah...I am not > really the Messiah!" No disrespect intended...it is merely an example. > > Blessings > Love, > > Zenbob > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. The Radical Truth is Radiance of Awareness. It is Total Independence and Ever Present. The Truth needs no psychological or spiritual crutches. It needs no philosophy, no religion, no explanation, no teaching, and no teacher, and yet It is always their support. A true devotee relishes in the Truth. The Truth of Self-Knowledge which is Pure Intelligence. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 1999 Report Share Posted September 22, 1999 In a message dated 9/20/99 4:17:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, RavenMcCloud writes: << There wouldn't be any shortage of sponsors and all the monies could go to ending hunger, education in birth control, family planning, sustainable agriculture. >> :) :) Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1999 Report Share Posted September 25, 1999 In a message dated 9/20/99 3:13:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, goode writes: << If it's Tim or Gloria, we'll probably need dialogue coaching, because a mainstream American accent is not very impressive or authoritative. I can coach on an Indian or Japanese accent. If we do a website, it must be done with very good and subdued taste, and be sensational without appearing to TRY to be sensational. We don't want accusations of egotism to fly about too soon. >> Dear Greg: Very observant, as always Greg! Yes, the accent would be a problem, except that Swami Gloria has chosen silence and restful repose as her modus operandi. As her venerated and chosen mouth piece, I am blessed with a profusion of both many languages, Japanese, Russian, French, German and a smattering of Hindi and Urdu, but best of all, capable of adopting accents, brogues and strange verbal affectations at the drop of a turban. Since most of my words will be in printed form, subject to rigorous translation and grammatical checking, I think we need not have too many fears on this area. Since we have now adopted the "Swami Ultime Thule by Assertion Tradition" (Swami Gloria merely asserts that I am the Regent and Voice of the Swami, and I have so asserted the Role of Protector of the Faith to Miraji, and other Esteemed Positions to follow) it therefore follows that Swami Gloria's lineage must be one of Assertion by her Root Gurus. As you say, obscure, but historically verifiable is best. Someone in the Himalayas must have said something about "inheriting Glory or to seek Glory in its human form" and that would be more than close enough to be used as the Words of Assertion to imbue Swami Gloria with the Lineal Blessing. More important, in my humble (as is required) opinion, is the future discovery of Swami Gloria's Sacred Relics buried somewhere in the Mysterious East...hopefully in the Himalayas somewhere. If we could arrange for a trip where Swami Gloria gets to point the way with her sacred walking stick and is then overcome with emotion upon seeing her relics...(and we could borrow from the Tibetan tradition and have two or three choices of relic items to choose from...3 shin bones, 3 arm bones, 3 jaw bones and three personal items, flute, or incense bowl or mala beads) and then select the authentic ones from the batch. She should increase the drama by being careful and painstaking, even touching and handling one incense bowl as if it might be the one, but then setting it aside and mumbling "Belonged to Sri Gunjakoot..." or somesuch tearful memory, then finally, triumphantly for the video cameras to see, she chooses the last of her items...causing great emotional outpouring and humbling by any of the native Priests that are there as expert witnesses. By documenting everything, we create the history as we go, and have available a rich archive of movie and special program footage at all times. Devotees love to buy photos and special programs of their Beloved Spiritual Leader, and Swami Gloria will make a great thing of desiring to limit "commercialization" of her image, or "idolatry" but in order to please her followers, will make these items available in LIMITED NUMBERS directly through this organization only. We could make a big deal of registering each item, registering each buyer and keeping a data base, where they would need to explain any duplicate purchases, before they could be approved. This would create a frenzy of desire on the part of collectors, raise the value of such items immediately and of course, create the demand that Swami has so clearly expressed an aversion for. We succeed if we fail. Swami should also begin her lessons or talks on the Problems of Sex in the Western World...chiding people for always talking and thinking about Sex! She should reveal herself, (tastefully) and ask who would dare to imagine her as an object of sexual imagination? She could then give very serious instruction on Tantra and how Kundalini can eventually liberate one from such unhealthy obsessions. "By doing sexual postures, one need never be obsessed with Sex again!" or some such. Always aim the goal at the point of transcending mere Sex, and achieving spiritual union...but in the end, most Western people will be in a flurry of interest and titillation over the "Sex parts." Gosh, Greg, this is so easy...I feel delighted by the entire aspect of creating an ongoing Swami Generating Society. I think we will need a publicist or information officer, So, I am naming you the Divine Bridge to Knowledge, and Envoy to the Media. We will coordinate all efforts with Harsha, Swami Gloria and Miraji, et al., in order to prepare the Way. Perhaps you could rough out a preliminary announcement/press release for future release regarding the discovery of Swami Gloria? We need to bury some relics in advance, so let's not be concerned too much about details, just yet. Sai Ram! Sat Nam! In Excelsis Gloria! Blessings Love, Zenbabaji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1999 Report Share Posted September 25, 1999 >ZEN2WRK > > >snip it therefore follows that Swami >Gloria's lineage must be one of Assertion by her Root Gurus. As you say, >obscure, but historically verifiable is best. Someone in the Himalayas must >have said something about "inheriting Glory or to seek Glory in its human >form" and that would be more than close enough to be used as the Words of >Assertion to imbue Swami Gloria with the Lineal Blessing. Sri Zenbabaji, Ahem, My Beloved Disciple seeks a Lineal Blessing when I was named by none other than Sri Harshaji?? Perhaps you do refer to some previous incarnation merely with regard to the discovery of relics, however the present lineage is quite well known and established already as it is. It may be discovered by anyone who reads these very archives. It is the true greatness of the secret teachings of Harshaji which has yet to be revealed to the world. That is also why it is assumed that the major disciples have been drawn here - to serve yet once again - and all positions are being chosen from among this group. Fortunately, I have kept files from the early days which include the secret, initiatory teachings. Tastefully small books may be made from this material for publication. Please do not consider my occasional comments on the overall plan to be in any way critical, my dear one. Be assured that I watch over you. I leave the commercial aspects in your hands, and it would be well to prepare as you suggest beforehand. Om Shabbi Poori Me, (Mira's brilliance shines here. So many will identify with the poverty of ignorance, which we come to dispel, yet as well to recognize that the spiritual poverty and simplicity of truth requires no superfulous knowledge.) Peaceful Rest to you and your foot, Swami Gloria Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1999 Report Share Posted September 25, 1999 I dont know who all participated in this message, so I wont bother to quote any names, but I can see that I am getting overworked here and I want to know when I will get a raise. I hereby propose some mayor investments in Switzerland for Swami Gloria, for I feel responsible to certify the continuity of this operation, and since I am Protector of the Faith, I am the only one that can be trusted with these kind of operations. But of course we will have to discuss my commissions first. Protector of the Faith Miraji ZEN2WRK > > In a message dated 9/20/99 3:13:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, goode > writes: > > << If it's Tim or Gloria, we'll probably need dialogue coaching, because a > mainstream American accent is not very impressive or authoritative. I can > coach on an Indian or Japanese accent. > > If we do a website, it must be done with very good and subdued taste, and > be sensational without appearing to TRY to be sensational. We don't want > accusations of egotism to fly about too soon. > >> > Dear Greg: > > Very observant, as always Greg! Yes, the accent would be a problem, except > that Swami Gloria has chosen silence and restful repose as her modus > operandi. As her venerated and chosen mouth piece, I am blessed with a > profusion of both many languages, Japanese, Russian, French, German and a > smattering of Hindi and Urdu, but best of all, capable of adopting accents, > brogues and strange verbal affectations at the drop of a turban. > > Since most of my words will be in printed form, subject to rigorous > translation and grammatical checking, I think we need not have too many fears > on this area. Since we have now adopted the "Swami Ultime Thule by Assertion > Tradition" (Swami Gloria merely asserts that I am the Regent and Voice of the > Swami, and I have so asserted the Role of Protector of the Faith to Miraji, > and other Esteemed Positions to follow) it therefore follows that Swami > Gloria's lineage must be one of Assertion by her Root Gurus. As you say, > obscure, but historically verifiable is best. Someone in the Himalayas must > have said something about "inheriting Glory or to seek Glory in its human > form" and that would be more than close enough to be used as the Words of > Assertion to imbue Swami Gloria with the Lineal Blessing. > > More important, in my humble (as is required) opinion, is the future > discovery of Swami Gloria's Sacred Relics buried somewhere in the Mysterious > East...hopefully in the Himalayas somewhere. If we could arrange for a trip > where Swami Gloria gets to point the way with her sacred walking stick and is > then overcome with emotion upon seeing her relics...(and we could borrow from > the Tibetan tradition and have two or three choices of relic items to choose > from...3 shin bones, 3 arm bones, 3 jaw bones and three personal items, > flute, or incense bowl or mala beads) and then select the authentic ones from > the batch. She should increase the drama by being careful and painstaking, > even touching and handling one incense bowl as if it might be the one, but > then setting it aside and mumbling "Belonged to Sri Gunjakoot..." or somesuch > tearful memory, then finally, triumphantly for the video cameras to see, she > chooses the last of her items...causing great emotional outpouring and > humbling by any of the native Priests that are there as expert witnesses. > > By documenting everything, we create the history as we go, and have available > a rich archive of movie and special program footage at all times. Devotees > love to buy photos and special programs of their Beloved Spiritual Leader, > and Swami Gloria will make a great thing of desiring to limit > "commercialization" of her image, or "idolatry" but in order to please her > followers, will make these items available in LIMITED NUMBERS directly > through this organization only. We could make a big deal of registering each > item, registering each buyer and keeping a data base, where they would need > to explain any duplicate purchases, before they could be approved. This > would create a frenzy of desire on the part of collectors, raise the value of > such items immediately and of course, create the demand that Swami has so > clearly expressed an aversion for. We succeed if we fail. > > Swami should also begin her lessons or talks on the Problems of Sex in the > Western World...chiding people for always talking and thinking about Sex! > She should reveal herself, (tastefully) and ask who would dare to imagine her > as an object of sexual imagination? She could then give very serious > instruction on Tantra and how Kundalini can eventually liberate one from such > unhealthy obsessions. "By doing sexual postures, one need never be obsessed > with Sex again!" or some such. Always aim the goal at the point of > transcending mere Sex, and achieving spiritual union...but in the end, most > Western people will be in a flurry of interest and titillation over the "Sex > parts." > > Gosh, Greg, this is so easy...I feel delighted by the entire aspect of > creating an ongoing Swami Generating Society. > > I think we will need a publicist or information officer, So, I am naming you > the Divine Bridge to Knowledge, and Envoy to the Media. We will coordinate > all efforts with Harsha, Swami Gloria and Miraji, et al., in order to prepare > the Way. > > Perhaps you could rough out a preliminary announcement/press release for > future release regarding the discovery of Swami Gloria? We need to bury some > relics in advance, so let's not be concerned too much about details, just yet. > > Sai Ram! Sat Nam! In Excelsis Gloria! > Blessings > Love, > > Zenbabaji > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Nowhere is Now Here. All paths, places, and sights and perceptions exist only in the Space of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Here. You are not "in" the now. You Are the Now! Here is Home. Home is where True Rest Is. Home is where the Heart Is. It is the Seer resting in the Seer, the Self-Nature, the Buddha Nature, or call it what you will. The Radical Truth is Radiance of Awareness. It is both the path, process, and the goal. It is Finality of Being without any support. It is Total Independence and Ever Present. The Truth of the Self needs no psychological or spiritual crutches. It needs no philosophy, no religion, no explanation, no teaching, and no teacher, and yet It is always their support. A true devotee relishes in the Truth. The Truth of Self-Knowledge which is Pure Intelligence. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 1999 Report Share Posted September 26, 1999 Well Swami Zenbabaji, Thank you and pranaams for including me in your select group. We can rev up the publicity machine any moment, just give the call. We're thinking of a multi-demographic analysis here - writeups in the major papers as "news" articles. Ads in various cities' alternative press and the metaphysical/yoga/health publications. Intentionally un-slick flyers. A book signing tour. Interview with Larry King and Oprah (we will have ironed out the accent issue by that time, we'll have our own makeup artists use temporary tatoo-like substances and then say to the TV folks "What??!! Makeup??!! Gurudev Swamijijiji Zenbabajijiji? He would never think of it - his entire life is an outpouring of Truth!!" "Please, no, film him as he is, in his humble Natural state." You get the idea! --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 1999 Report Share Posted September 26, 1999 In a message dated 9/25/99 2:25:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mirror writes: << I hereby propose some mayor investments in Switzerland for Swami Gloria, for I feel responsible to certify the continuity of this operation, and since I am Protector of the Faith, I am the only one that can be trusted with these kind of operations. But of course we will have to discuss my commissions first. >> Dearest Beloved Miraji: Your proposal is being considered by Swami Gloria, even though her commitment to resting would normally preclude any major Political activity, such as running for Mayor of any of the Cantons in Switzerland, or even investing in an already existing Mayor or Burgermeister. However, if you are suggesting placing financial holdings into numbered accounts in Switzerland, then I believe that this is a wise decision. Your commissions will, as shall all of ours, be calculated from net profits (prophets?) resulting from publishing, tours, and gift sales worldwide, and shall not exceed 2% of this total, nor shall the amount annually exceed $2.2 million dollars U.S. This may seem modest, but the reserve funds will be used for major medical programs, education, and for maintaining travel expenses for all of the Divine Staff. I am sure you will find this most befitting one of your humility, ability and devotion. Also, any donations made to you by devotees is yours to keep or use at your own discretion. Sai Ram! Blessings! Zenbabaji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 1999 Report Share Posted September 27, 1999 In a message dated 9/26/99 7:48:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, goode writes: << Ads in various cities' alternative press and the metaphysical/yoga/health publications. Intentionally un-slick flyers. A book signing tour. Interview with Larry King and Oprah (we will have ironed out the accent issue by that time, we'll have our own makeup artists use temporary tatoo-like substances and then say to the TV folks "What??!! Makeup??!! Gurudev Swamijijiji Zenbabajijiji? He would never think of it - his entire life is an outpouring of Truth!!" "Please, no, film him as he is, in his humble Natural state." You get the idea! >> Dear Gregaji: Inspirations all. I am in accord with this effluvia. Swami Gloria fully supports drafting preliminary plans...to be called stage 1. >From now on all info releases are to be written as if documenting serious authentic Guru revelations. Who knows who may be watching us? We should begin collecting publicity photos of all involved. Mine is attached. More available...feel free to alter as you deem best in order to remove any taint of "slickness." Blessings! Sai Ram! Zenbabaji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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