Ivan, Antoine/world and self

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Ivan: It can not be *dissolved* by

> one man -- although it can undergo changes as a result of

> a deep consciousness modification as a whole.

 

Antoine: Are you only one man?

 

Dan: This one can be multiplied and divided, yet remain one.

So it is nothing to be one.

> ----

> Ivan: There is no

> fixidity to them. What is that content that you give a name to -- as

> self?

 

Antoine: What is the content of one man?

 

Dan: What is the content of the one-nothing being? This one's content

couldn't possibly be what it appears to be - couldn't

possibly be content at all.

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In a message dated 9/23/99 1:55:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

berkowd writes:

 

<< Antoine: What is the content of one man?

 

Dan: What is the content of the one-nothing being? This one's content

couldn't possibly be what it appears to be - couldn't

possibly be content at all.

>>

 

Lucid Questions Danaji:

 

But, you stray into the distortion of semantics by saying that "content"

could not be "content" at all. Would there exist something of the "one

nothing being" that could be used to even identify such as a "one nothing

being?" If so, then this state of beingness, in itself must constitute

something that, even in the abstract, could be called "content." That it is

unlike content for you or I in the differentiated state is clearly evident,

but in the one nothing state, what is, what exists, what imposes context or

existence could be called "content."

 

This is the primordial before state...the eternal moment of inaction that is

referred to in the Vedas...such preeminent states of non duality and inaction

must however contain content, because it is from all such states of pure

potential that all matter, motion, time and space arises. This will always

reduce to a "chicken and egg" argument, but let us be satisfied that an

original preeminent state of pure potential, perfect and complete comprised

the whole of all things, all thought, all space, time, and energy. This is

fully consistent with modern cosmology, and is a point along a time line that

can be mapped. Since it has a place in space time, it has content. In fact,

it has all content. Every possible thing, every event proceeds from this

original potential. Can we define this with any accuracy? Perhaps not.

But, I am comforted in the experience that this pure point of absolute

potential is best described as Pure Thought and that this Pure Thought passes

throughout the universe, ever growing, expanding and differentiating into

things of wonder and beauty...separate and yet, never truly separated.

 

Sai Ram!

 

Zenbob