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>Tony wrote: >If I am unconscious,

>what is it I am unconscious of?<

>

>Dan Berkow wrote:

>>"awareness" (but my sore back, I'm conscious of :-)

>)<

>

>T: Yes but what is 'awareness', but illusion, the

>difference between Saguna and Nirguna Brahman.

 

Dan: How can one state that awareness is illusion

unless one is aware of such illusion? In fact,

one must be aware of awareness to make this statement :-)

Without awareness, one cannot even know whether

one is making a statement or not...

 

T: So we

>are unconscious of another illusion, are we not? We

>are unconscious of the 'I Am', for Nirguna Brahman has

>no 'awareness'. Otherwise it would be Saguna/Iswara

>not Nirguna.

 

D: What words can be used where nothing can be said?

>

>T: We are also unconscious of relative mundane

>consciousness. Our mind is still in illusion when

>unconscious, in sushupti, but in the bliss of

>'Brahmaloka'. Just a thin veil from the Truth. Most

>don't remember this bliss but sometimes on awakening

>almost directly ,from deep sleep there is a carry-over

>feeling of this bliss. I suppose realisation of that

>bliss is the last impediment to Moksha.

 

D: No impediments - only the ones we imagine, and imagine

that we experience, and experience ourselves as

imagining...

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