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ivan: I don't. Dan did. I am exactly saying that there is nothing

to ask about it...

 

Dan: Is it my imagination, or is this conversation getting silly?

Oh, that's right, imagination is unreal and only materiality

is real. So these typed letters simply are what they are -

letters on a page. Interpretation is meaningless.

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ivan: Where is the mind apart from

a mind object....a thought....a concept. Manifestation is nowhere...as this.

 

Dan: Somehow the idea that "manifestation is nowhere" doesn't strike

me as consistent with your idea that materiality is all that is.

But then, consistency isn't all it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)

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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:21:37 -0400 "Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd

writes:

> "Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd

>

> ivan: I don't. Dan did. I am exactly saying that there is nothing

> to ask about it...

>

> Dan: Is it my imagination, or is this conversation getting silly?

> Oh, that's right, imagination is unreal and only materiality

> is real. So these typed letters simply are what they are -

> letters on a page. Interpretation is meaningless.

> -------------------------------

> ivan: Where is the mind apart from

> a mind object....a thought....a concept. Manifestation is

> nowhere...as this.

>

> Dan: Somehow the idea that "manifestation is nowhere" doesn't

> strike

> me as consistent with your idea that materiality is all that

> is.

> But then, consistency isn't all it's cracked up to be

> anyway. :-)

>

The word "mind" is thought's

attempt to depict itself

(*to* itself!) as an ongoing,

persistent entity rather than

the series of transient

events it is.

 

 

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ivan: I don't. Dan did. I am exactly saying that there is nothing

to ask about it...

 

Dan: Is it my imagination, or is this conversation getting silly?

 

ivan: To whom?

 

Dan: Oh, that's right, imagination is unreal and only materiality

is real.

 

ivan: No! Imagination is real as that. Materiality is real as that.

And your eventual lack of interest in seeing this is real as that!

Still friends??

 

Dan:So these typed letters simply are what they are -

letters on a page. Interpretation is meaningless.

 

ivan:No!!!! There are letters on the screen as visual image.

There are words on the screen with meaning. The meaning

of words are gathered through an hability called "listening".

If listening is disturbed by interpretation according to pre-conceived

ideias and subtle images concerning qualities of the inner self,

then listening stops, and the self will say that it is meaningless,

worthless, silly, may even fall deeply asleep.....anything to

avoid breaking the confortable self-picture.

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ivan: Where is the mind apart from

a mind object....a thought....a concept. Manifestation is nowhere...as this.

 

Dan: Somehow the idea that "manifestation is nowhere" doesn't strike

me as consistent with your idea that materiality is all that is.

 

ivan: Manifestation is nowhere known. And materiality is a quality

inherent to materials. Fluidity is typical of liquids and gas. And

thought has a very peculiar and particular quality that needs to be

recognised in order not to get cought by it.

 

 

Dan:But then, consistency isn't all it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)

 

ivan: Doesn't seems so....Something keeps on trukin awlright inside

there,... very consistently.... LOL LOL

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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:21:37 -0400 "Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd

writes:

> "Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd

>

> ivan: I don't. Dan did. I am exactly saying that there is nothing

> to ask about it...

>

> Dan: Is it my imagination, or is this conversation getting silly?

> Oh, that's right, imagination is unreal and only materiality

> is real. So these typed letters simply are what they are -

> letters on a page. Interpretation is meaningless.

> -------------------------------

> ivan: Where is the mind apart from

> a mind object....a thought....a concept. Manifestation is

> nowhere...as this.

>

> Dan: Somehow the idea that "manifestation is nowhere" doesn't

> strike

> me as consistent with your idea that materiality is all that

> is.

> But then, consistency isn't all it's cracked up to be

> anyway. :-)

>

Bruce:The word "mind" is thought's

attempt to depict itself

(*to* itself!) as an ongoing,

persistent entity rather than

the series of transient

events it is.

 

ivan: Of course!! Beautifull!! Isn´t it?!!

Thought found a clever subtle and "very

inteligent" way of conceiving an ongoing

parameter calle "mind". And now the self

can go on without being disturbed in its

duality...cos mind is taken as diferent

from self..... LOL LOL LOL

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