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In a message dated 09/27/1999 4:47:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

berkowd writes:

 

<< Awareness is simultaneously diffuse and specific.

The awareness I see seems to have little in common

with the awareness you discuss here. There is

no "inner entity" in awareness, how did that

guy get back in this conversation??!!

Take awareness as a point of convergence, then

enter it and go through to the "other side"...

You'll have to leave debates and concepts

on this side, though, when you "go through"...

>>

Right, exactly, because the lower mental constructs are exactly one of those

blocks to going through to the other side. Glad I read the first few and

skipped to the end.

 

Love*Light*Laughter,

~RainboLily~

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Dan:... The reason there is no separate awareness

is because nothing is separable from awareness.

 

ivan: Realy? But there is a mind separate from it's

content??!!

 

Dan: You have a great gift for doing your best to put

your words in my mouth. The original statement

I made was about the contentless nature of reality.

"Mind" is content. The content is the idea "Mind."

 

I: A separate fixed ongoing mind...

You see...our brain can not accept the fact that

there is nothing fixed...ongoing. So when it is

pointed out that the inner being is a fallacy....it

says OK, and projects an oustside entity. First

a difused big awareness.....then that´s beaten

to death. Then a "mind"....anything. It needs something

to get hold.....desperatly........LOL LOL

 

D: Awareness is simultaneously diffuse and specific.

The awareness I see seems to have little in common

with the awareness you discuss here. There is

no "inner entity" in awareness, how did that

guy get back in this conversation??!!

Take awareness as a point of convergence, then

enter it and go through to the "other side"...

You'll have to leave debates and concepts

on this side, though, when you "go through"...

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Dan:... The reason there is no separate awareness

is because nothing is separable from awareness.

 

ivan: Realy? But there is a mind separate from it's

content??!!

 

Dan: You have a great gift for doing your best to put

your words in my mouth. The original statement

I made was about the contentless nature of reality.

"Mind" is content. The content is the idea "Mind."

 

ivan: Well....if mind is content, a thought construct, what is

it that is "interpreting" materiality. That's where we started.

 

D: Awareness is simultaneously diffuse and specific.

 

ivan: So awareness is difused ...Correct

me if i understood wrong.

 

D:The awareness I see seems to have little in common

with the awareness you discuss here.

 

ivan:Wich awareness is difused? Point to it, please.

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