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>Shrodinger's Cat. Once you open a box, there's the cat. But was it in

>that box before you opened it? ))))))

 

Dan: Yup - and let's look at the "big picture" here: there's me looking

into the box to see the cat, thus determining a "cat" from an

indeterminate situation. Now, just "who" is it that is observing

me observing the cat, thus determining "me,cat," and the

observation I am making? And who is observing that who????

 

Christopher: and who defined what was in the box as a cat ...?

and who taught me that 'cat' was the appropriate

description?

 

and I always thought that in the act of observation,

there was no interpretation .. that thw two functions

of observation and interpretation were logical

"compare - if - then - jump" functions ..

 

For most minds, most of the time,

this is the only exercise they get ..

Jumping to conclusions

 

Christopher

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Shrodinger's Cat. Once you open a box, there's the cat. But was it in

that box before you opened it? ))))))

 

Dan: Yup - and let's look at the "big picture" here: there's me looking

into the box to see the cat, thus determining a "cat" from an

indeterminate situation. Now, just "who" is it that is observing

me observing the cat, thus determining "me,cat," and the

observation I am making? And who is observing that who????

 

Christopher: and who defined what was in the box as a cat ...?

and who taught me that 'cat' was the appropriate

description?

 

Geovani: Good question. I think this is where the waters separate.

One side is for the possibility of absense of interpretation as theory...

Other side is for events arising in emptiness...as they are...

 

(FromDharma):

 

As we have seen in the 'Yoga of the Inner Fire', the meditative experience

takes place in different phases. The first is characterized by the taking

possession and penetration of the Manipura-Cakra [solar plexus or Navel

Center] by the heat of the Inner Fire, whereby all bodily, elementary, or

'earth-bound' forces of the lower region (Tib.: smad) are concentrated and

sublimated. (For this reason the Navel Centre is regarded as the actual

starting-point or the main organ of psychic heat [gtum-mo].) After the

hindrances of the lower realms have thus been removed, the meditation can

proceed on a safe foundation and can turn without hindrance towards the

main aim: the becoming one in the spirit.

 

 

This takes place in the second phase of this meditation, in the

attainment of universal consciousness, in which all self-limitation, all

duality of 'self' and 'non-self' is extinguished.

The third phase, however, consists in the return to the human plane...

 

PS - I am not sure of the English language here, but Solar Plexus seems

to be diferent from the Navel Center........Dharma? I think the SP is close

to the botom end of the externum bone at the chest....