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In a message dated 10/5/99 8:40:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

qapla writes:

 

<< 1 Meat

2 Fish

3 Fowl

4 Eggs

5 Garlic

6 Ginger

7 Onions

8 Shallots

9 and Leeks.

. >>

None of these foods are "forbidden." One is admonished to "do no harm" to

living creatures, but Buddhism does not enforce vegetarianism, only Hinduism

does. There is a debt of Karma for taking life, any life. But it is weighed

against the alternative consequences of that life and the dharma involved.

 

Brahmins and other Hindu castes also use onions and garlic in their cooking

routinely. These are cleansing foods and a blood tonic. There is no

injunction against them. Asoefoeda powder, used in all Indian cooking is in

fact made from a mixture of plant materials including onions and leeks.

Where do you come up with this new twist?

 

Zenbob

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At 03:04 PM 10/5/99 , ZEN2WRK wrote:

>ZEN2WRK

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>In a message dated 10/5/99 8:40:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

>qapla writes:

>

><< 1 Meat

> 2 Fish

> 3 Fowl

> 4 Eggs

> 5 Garlic

> 6 Ginger

> 7 Onions

> 8 Shallots

> 9 and Leeks.

> . >>

>None of these foods are "forbidden." One is admonished to "do no harm" to

>living creatures, but Buddhism does not enforce vegetarianism, only Hinduism

>does. There is a debt of Karma for taking life, any life. But it is weighed

>against the alternative consequences of that life and the dharma involved.

 

Hey Zenbob,

 

I know some following the yogic paths (like the Sivananda organization)

also avoid rajasic foods. So no peppers or strong spices or sex, bad for

meditation, because they are aspiring to total sattva. I'm not sure

whether onion and garlic are on that list.

 

On the other hand, I've heard that Jains, from ahimsa, hesitate even to

kill insects, and sometimes have a servant sweep the path ahead of them as

they walk, so that no creature will be harmed.

 

--Greg

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In a message dated 10/5/99 2:10:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, goode

writes:

 

<< I know some following the yogic paths (like the Sivananda organization)

also avoid rajasic foods. So no peppers or strong spices or sex, bad for

meditation, because they are aspiring to total sattva. I'm not sure

whether onion and garlic are on that list.

 

On the other hand, I've heard that Jains, from ahimsa, hesitate even to

kill insects, and sometimes have a servant sweep the path ahead of them as

they walk, so that no creature will be harmed.

>>

Actually, if taken literally, the admonishments are against "foods or drinks

of any strong flavor" the idea is to eliminate disturbance or over

activation of the physical sense systems. This is of course, only the path

of the true aesthetic, and Buddha thoroughly denounced such self punishing or

totally restrictive rules.

 

The Jains not only practice Ahimsa, and must not kill any living creature,

but as far as Mahavira, the teacher of the Jains, was concerned, even a

violent thought against any living thing could do it irreparable harm. Of

course, the Jains are in constant risk for their survival and because they

practice a sort of enforced abstinence, they do not reproduce with the

vitality of other Hindu communities. It is to their benefit that the Sikhs,

who are quite warlike and prepared to fight, have for centuries taken it as

their solemn duty to protect the Jains. Otherwise, there would be no fancy

Jains left at all, only plain Jains.

 

Blessings

Love,

 

Zenbob

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