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This is from another OneList group - TheOasis. It seemed very apropos of the

discussion on Polarity.

diana

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The Tao te Ching (The book of the way in life, living, being) (also

> Dao deh Jing and other spellings) is a collection of philosophy in

> verse by Lao-Tzu (also Lao-Tse and some other spellings) from about

> 550 BC.

>

> These bits are from the Stephen Mitchell translation. Mitchell is a

> serious Zen student whose Chinese is not deep, but people who do read

> archaic Chinese say this is the best version going in English.

> Governing a large country

> is like frying a small fish.

> You spoil it with too much poking.

>

> Center your country in the Tao

> and evil will have no power.

> Not that it isn't there,

> but you'll be able to step out of its way.

> *

> Peace is his highest value.

> If the peace has been shattered,

> how can he be content?

> His enemies are not demons,

> but human beings like himself.

> He doesn't wish them personal harm.

> Nor does he rejoice in victory.

>

> He enters a battle gravely,

> with sorrow and with great compassion,

> as if he were attending a funeral.

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Dear Xena:

 

This is a very good translation. We should also then be mindful of Lao Tzu's

admonishments about seeking to be Virtuous or Humble. He believed, (and I

agree) that those who strive to show the world their humility are not true in

their non attachment or in overcoming ego. In fact, Lao Tzu would warn

people to be most wary of those who manifest a too evident posture of

humility. Such humility is like "Ice melting" meaning that it wishes to show

that it is not one form, but another. Yet, we all know that ice and water

are but aspects of the same thing.

True non attachment or egoless understanding is neither proud nor humble. It

certainly is not virtuous nor strives to convince others of what virtue is.

Once one becomes enthralled in the pursuit of virtue, then everything becomes

a world of non virtue...everything and everyone are judged according to some

virtuous standard...and inevitably fail.

 

Move aside rather than fight...good advice when one is avoiding a rushing

bull or attack. It is wisdom. Being silent or accepting of error or false

intent...no, even Lao Tzu would quickly point out if another said something

that seemed not in harmony with the posture or claims of others. Mindfulness

is always good, and we all need to measure ourselves by our own reflections,

as others provide us with. I often examine my motives and inner feelings

when I read comments and what I look for inside of myself is a sense of

authenticity or sense that rises above my own self needs. This sounds funny.

I know that I have never expressed this to any lists, before, so maybe it

has value here. I examine myself and my words, very critically, particularly

when others disagree or have some emotional moment with them. What I look

for is not just the words, but the motives. What did I have to gain or lose

in expressing some idea or opinion? Was it in jest, serious, upset? Why

upset? Then I look deeper. If my feelings were injured and I reacted, then

I see my normal human error. If I did not have any "feelings" attached, but

this idea was strongly expressed because of my experience of reality...then I

search for parallels or examples that might make the context clearer for

others to understand or see the rationale behind. This does not ever suggest

that I expect agreement on all issues! Hahah. That would be funny and

scary. I seek only the middle path area...where agreement is not needed, but

some understanding of the point of view is gained. Many times I have misread

other comments and then said things that must have seemed way off. I am

quick to apologize and usually pretty chagrined at my actions. However, if I

understand what someone says, and believe I also understand their inner

motives for acting or saying something, and I feel that they have an agenda

or are trying to prove something (for whatever reason) and the sense behind

it does not seem sensible, then I will question it. The questions do not

intend harm, only the striking away at illusion and false thinking. We'd all

like to fly, but wishing so rarely allows us to leap from tall buildings.

So, I examine my motives and words, and the motives and words of others to

sort out this gray area of "reality" or critical thinking first, then proceed

to some loftier goal. If there are major errors in critical thinking, basic

logic, or history, then we need to work out those details and come to a

common acceptance of definitions and ideas, before proceeding further. If

after that has been accomplished there are still significant differences in

our perspectives (and often there is little or no difference once this has

been done) then it is necessary to see if the values placed on the ideas

relate to my motives or the motives of the other person.

If I have no ax to grind and no motive based on "helping myself" in some way,

then it usually leaves the "other person's motives" exposed as the major

element needing to be resolved. If they do not wish to examine their own

thinking or motives, then their actions or behavior cannot change. If this

has been the source of problems...then it will continue to be.

 

A long, long babble, huh? Maybe this is useful for those who think I always

shoot from the hip. I sometimes shoot from the hip, but I am a pretty good

shot. Usually I don't even try shooting, but wait for the other person to

fire a shot or two. I enjoy ideas and enjoy the concept that by sharing

ideas, people can become more than they were before they shared. I am

enriched by this experience and value this highly.

 

So, my most selfish motive is the need for mental stimulation, personal

contact that is emotionally rewarding, fun, and educational. I enjoy being

able to respond and offer my insights, simply as contrast or in humor. I am

not Lao Tzu, and have not yet reached the point where I have no desire at all

for anything. I still have desire and likes and dislikes. So, I am still a

work in progress.

 

Have I tried to sell real estate, tickets to a new Guru show, new diet-fad,

political action group or any other vested interest activity or organization?

Have I tried to get people to only chant "Yo Mama" or some other absolutely

required method of attaining instant whatzit? No. And I won't. All roads

lead to where they will end up anyway. We're all getting there, some slowly,

some at break neck speed. I am willing to take time and arrive when I arrive

and hope all of you will arrive in good shape, too!

 

Blessings

Love,

 

Zenbob

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In a message dated 10/8/99 4:12:40 PM Central Daylight Time, ZEN2WRK

writes:

 

<< I am willing to take time and arrive when I arrive

and hope all of you will arrive in good shape, too! >>

 

Amen! <g>

diana

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