Guest guest Posted October 10, 1999 Report Share Posted October 10, 1999 What if we take the Gita in a more symbolic way? Krishna being the teacher, Arjuna symbolizing the student, and the Bad Guys symbolizing the Mind. The Self being the battlefield on which this discussion is taking place... Krishna is encouraging Arjun, to fight and conquer his own relatives, amongst which is his own teacher of martial arts. "How could I kill my own relatives? The ones that raised me? How could I kill the very one that taught me everything I know?", he wonders, which in this case are an analogy for his concepts, which he has trusted all his life. "Dont worry, they are already dead" replies Krishna, indicating that concepts have no life of their own, and killing them brings a victory that cannot be apprehended before it is done. Perhaps the Gita symbolizes a very common battle that goes on almost daily within many human beings. I don't know, just an interpretation... With love, Mira *Mirror* http://welcome.to/mirror > << When Arjuna > finally declared that he would no > longer fight, surely there was no > doubt of the boundless courage > implicit in that surrender >> > > Well, not if we read Krishna's response. Krishna was most critical of > Arjuna's "weakness" and emotional attachment. As he lectured, Arjuna that > all people are born, die and are born again and that physical existence is at > most a sort of temporal illusion. Krishna was not a pacifist and would urge > that we always fight tyranny for the right purpose, rather than to allow > greater tragedies to occur. > > Now, I am not saying that I take Krishna's side over Arjuna's, but as a young > man who had to contemplate military service, the argument, or discussion in > the Bhagavad-Gita was certainly very thought provoking. Most people think of > it as endorsing pacifism, but it in fact endorses the exact opposite. Of > course, it does not advocate violence where violence can be avoided...but it > does advocate brave and stalwart defense of liberty and what is right in the > face of the unavoidable attack by an enemy. > > Hey. Remember, I am not responding to comments. So, please ignore my > remarks if they upset anyone. > > Blessings, > Love, > > Zenbob > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Nowhere is Now Here. All paths, places, and sights and perceptions exist only in the Space of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Here. You are not "in" the now. You Are the Now! Here is Home. Home is where True Rest Is. Home is where the Heart Is. It is the Seer resting in the Seer, the Self-Nature, the Buddha Nature, or call it what you will. The Radical Truth is Radiance of Awareness. It is both the path, process, and the goal. It is Finality of Being without any support. It is Total Independence and Ever Present. The Truth of the Self needs no psychological or spiritual crutches. It needs no philosophy, no religion, no explanation, no teaching, and no teacher, and yet It is always their support. A true devotee relishes in the Truth. The Truth of Self-Knowledge which is Pure Intelligence. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 1999 Report Share Posted October 10, 1999 Hi Mira, >What if we take the Gita in a more symbolic way? >Krishna being the teacher, Arjuna symbolizing the student, and the Bad Guys >symbolizing the Mind. This is of course not the whole GIta... it's a "framing story" that appears at beginning and end... the rest of the book is something else entirely. Same thing in the book of _Job_. >The Self being the battlefield on which this discussion is taking place... >Krishna is encouraging Arjun, to fight and conquer his own relatives, >amongst which is his own teacher of martial arts. "How could I kill my own >relatives? The ones that raised me? How could I kill the very one that >taught me everything I know?", he wonders, which in this case are an analogy >for his concepts, which he has trusted all his life. "Dont worry, they are >already dead" replies Krishna, indicating that concepts have no life of >their own, and killing them brings a victory that cannot be apprehended >before it is done. > >Perhaps the Gita symbolizes a very common battle that goes on almost daily >within many human beings. The DK/Bailey books use "the plain of Kurukshetra" (where this took place) as an example of what they call 4th-Ray energy... the energy of balance, of uniting opposites. It relates to heart center being in the middle of the major chakras. Toynbee wrote that a study of history shows that every time two great civilizations have confronted each other, the outcome has _always_ been their eventual union... and in the past it has _always_ come about through war. He said the hope for our time is that the world can find a new unity without needing war to do it. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 1999 Report Share Posted October 10, 1999 Hi everyone (sipping for the crabs*) Now Mira hi ~ Mirror wrote: > "Mirror" <mirror > > What if we take the Gita in a more symbolic way? Yes I have .. > Krishna being the teacher, Arjuna symbolizing the student, and the Bad Guys > symbolizing the Mind. > The Self being the battlefield on which this discussion is taking place... Yes a battle fought within the mind is how I saw it ~ dark night of soul Spirit severing attachment to fear energy flavour by shoving our face in it with personaltiy death/s :-) Such a cute Tale! Luv all, Col~fish > > Krishna is encouraging Arjun, to fight and conquer his own relatives, > amongst which is his own teacher of martial arts. "How could I kill my own > relatives? The ones that raised me? How could I kill the very one that > taught me everything I know?", he wonders, which in this case are an analogy > for his concepts, which he has trusted all his life. "Dont worry, they are > already dead" replies Krishna, indicating that concepts have no life of > their own, and killing them brings a victory that cannot be apprehended > before it is done. > > Perhaps the Gita symbolizes a very common battle that goes on almost daily > within many human beings. > > I don't know, just an interpretation... > > With love, > > Mira > *Mirror* > > http://welcome.to/mirror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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