Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 In a message dated 10/12/1999 4:19:23 PM Atlantic Daylight Time, berkowd writes: << Dear Jerry and Harsha - Just to throw in my two cents to this otherwise nonmonetary experience - Everything *is* given freely. Everything is made of nothing. Even money. Money is simply a symbol for a quantity of time and energy. It's not money that's a problem, it's the focus on money as if it were the basis of reality and well-being that's a problem. I think, Jerry, that you may be detecting a hidden motive behind the preaching and teaching, an unspoken desire related to money, status, and fame that isn't "owned". It's the self-deceit that's the problem, not the money. Let information be disseminated free of charge, for charge, on the internet, in bookstores, on T.V., in songs, in movies, in plays, in therapy sessions, in town meetings, at the coffee shop, at the seashore, well - you probably get my drift. Jerry - you're right. There are too many leaders and not enough wandering lovers of truth, too many preachers and not enough poets. And Harsha, I'm going to rob Peter to pay Paul back... With Love, Dan >> Well Peter now knows you are coming Dan! :-). Jerry makes a fundamental point though. What he is saying (to nondual teachers) is that if money really does not matter then why not give one's insights and wisdom freely on the Internet. Maybe that is too simplistic but Jerry's vision makes perfect sense to me. Especially since access to the Internet is growing exponentially world wide and the benefits from the free exchange of information and wisdom are obvious. The best gifts are always free, I believe. In any case, all my gifts are free! Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 At 01:32 PM 10/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > >umbada (Jerry M. Katz) > >When I vision a way of living, of a culture, a civilization, >I vision very naively, because I vision a community whose >members may practice various religions, but who are capable >of seeing the essential sameness of all religions and who >know that sameness each moment of living whether living >within or without the religious framework. Religion, >therefore, becomes a human practice chosen for any number of >reasons, only one of which might be to enjoy closeness to or >the celebration of that sameness. > >I vision a civilization whose people live only to bask in >the sameness and who see to it that others have the freedom >to do the same. > >It's a gift that doesn't come so naturally to many. And to >those to whom it is natural, the gift, at one time bare, had >become wrapped in so many layers of fear-paper, that a great >effort is needed to bare it once more and to keep the paper, >via some static electricity of the psyche, from being >attracted back to it. > >In the visioned -- not the planned or intended -- >civilization, the pulp is not mashed that would give rise to >the fear-paper. There are very few seeds of that >civilization. I see too many leaders. Too many people >pushing their books and protecting their property. For >starters, I would like to see authors in the nondual arena >put their books on the Internet for all to see for free. I >think they will sell a lot more books that way. Those who >refuse to do so, I think, have not seen the largeness of >what they are doing and are robbing Grace. > >--Jerry > > >Well put Jerry. Let us not rob Grace to pay Sally or rob Paul to pay Peter. >This is no time for Robbin Hoods! This is not merry England. Let us give to >all and give freely! All the nondual authors writing today should put their >books on the internet immediately. In fact, they should have done it by now! >I really mean that! Thanks Jerry for pointing out the hypocrisy. This needs >to be pointed out again and again on our lists. Our books will be available >free on the internet as well as in hard copy. The hard copy will have my >picture and autograph on it. Jerry's stuff will come with the nondual >t-shirts. > >Love you all and thanks for your support >Harsha Dear Jerry and Harsha - Just to throw in my two cents to this otherwise nonmonetary experience - Everything *is* given freely. Everything is made of nothing. Even money. Money is simply a symbol for a quantity of time and energy. It's not money that's a problem, it's the focus on money as if it were the basis of reality and well-being that's a problem. I think, Jerry, that you may be detecting a hidden motive behind the preaching and teaching, an unspoken desire related to money, status, and fame that isn't "owned". It's the self-deceit that's the problem, not the money. Let information be disseminated free of charge, for charge, on the internet, in bookstores, on T.V., in songs, in movies, in plays, in therapy sessions, in town meetings, at the coffee shop, at the seashore, well - you probably get my drift. Jerry - you're right. There are too many leaders and not enough wandering lovers of truth, too many preachers and not enough poets. And Harsha, I'm going to rob Peter to pay Paul back... With Love, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 Harsha: > Well Peter now knows you are coming Dan! :-). Jerry makes a fundamental point > though. What he is saying (to nondual teachers) is that if money really does > not matter then why not give one's insights and wisdom freely on the > Internet. Maybe that is too simplistic but Jerry's vision makes perfect sense > to me. Especially since access to the Internet is growing exponentially world > wide and the benefits from the free exchange of information and wisdom are > obvious. The best gifts are always free, I believe. In any case, all my gifts > are free! Dear Harsha, isnt this list your perfect and totally free contribution to the Internet in order to exchange information? I do agree at this wisdom needs not be hidden in the closet, and exchanging information can happen on many borderless locations on the Internet. Anyone with time and inspiration may start of more locations such as clubs, chats, message boards, web sites etc. The more the marrier! Let's take over cyberspace! :-) (Star Wars Episode XVIII: The Invasion of the Nondual Force) With love, Mira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 > Mira: Let's take over cyberspace! :-) >(Star Wars Episode XVIII: The Invasion of the Nondual Force) >With love, >Mira Star Wars XIX: The Nondual Menace Star Wars XX: Nonduality Strikes Back Star Wars XXX: Deep Inside Nonduality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 Mirror wrote: > The Invasion of the Nondual Force Uh.. errrr... 'oxymoron city' or what. David (jedi brown belt) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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