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hi Dharma,

thank you, and thanks to Jan for answering this question. i have heard of

remote viewing, didn't realize that was what "distant viewing" referred to.

actually have a friend who is employed by the us government who used to do

"remote viewing " for them. for myself, i find there's enough (too much) to

look at right here most of the time! :)

thanks to both you and jan-- dreams and ways of seeing are of great interest

to me, and these posts always lead me on further fun investigations :)

love and blessings,

aleks

In a message dated 10/12/99 7:58:57 PM, fisher1 writes:

>Hi aleks,

>

>>seriously, do you think "distant viewing" is akin

>>to lucid dreaming?

>

>It is unlike it in this way: in dream work we are dealing with our own

>interior work with "dream stuff"... the stuff of the astral plane. We

>work to be more conscious during dreams... and later to manipulate the

>dream stuff at will and as we want to. It has nothing to do with the

>physical plane and the outer "real" world.

>

>In remote viewing we are looking to see what is really happening at some

>particular space-time. In experiments like those at Stanford, the subject

>is attempting to describe/draw what is really there in a physical/plane

>sense. And his results are matched with photos in order to judge his

>success.

>

>Of course, if we are looking for something non-physical, like the state

>of

>someone's chakras, that's somewhat different... and we may be using our

>own ways of symbolic seeing in order to perceive what is there. For

>instance, if I see a chakra lit up in a particular color, does that mean

>that another person will see exactly the same thing? NO. But our

>interpretations of what we see should correspond. The colors I see in

>are

>a learned set of colors/chakras... years ago I used to use another system

>of colors. I was interested to read that Govinda says not to always

>associate the same color, symbol, etc., with the same chakra... that they

>can be used for different chakras, depending on the purpose of your

>meditation.

>

>However, there is this "kinship" between remote viewing and lucid

>dreaming... that symbols are used. And dream work probably helps us to

>be

>more flexible and to more easily use symbols while being aware that they

>_are_ symbols.

>

>Love,

>Dharma

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