The People

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In a message dated 10/17/1999 11:14:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

atsilaaktahi writes:

 

<< Your questions are welcome too.

wado utsadv (thank you for your kindness)

aisv nvwadohiyada ale nvwatohiyadv (walk in peace and harmony)

atsila aktahi (fire eyes)

We were contented to let things remain as the Great Spirit made them. >>

 

Thank you atsila aktahi,

 

My first name in Qabalah, that i chose out of the blue without any

idea of its meaning was FlameSeer, not so very different, perhaps?

 

My best friend growing up was full-blooded Cherokee, we are still

friends, her name was Kim.

 

Thank you for sharing, I will most certainly look forward to hearing

more.

 

Love and Light

Annette ~ rainbo ~

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"atsilaaktahi" <atsilaaktahi

 

I thank you for opening your hearts with compassion and understanding.

I won't overwhelm this list with this subject, but will post occasionally

with what I feel guided to share, or may even fit in with other discussions

that may be going on, as a point of contrast or similiarity, if that is ok

with you all. Your questions are welcome too.

wado utsadv (thank you for your kindness)

aisv nvwadohiyada ale nvwatohiyadv (walk in peace and harmony)

atsila aktahi (fire eyes)

We were contented to let things remain as the Great Spirit made them.

Chief Joseph 1873

 

Thanks for sharing Atsilaaktahi and educating us. It is much appreciated.

Thanks to Gloria, Holly, Mira, Dharma, TG, Linda, Jill, Aleks, and Rainbo

and so many others for creating the environment in this Sangha where such

sharing is possible. I left the men out because I think they are not as

sensitive with the possible exception of Bruce, Gene, Greg, Jan (He is our

Man!), Dan (He is our man!), Antoine, and others. Just kidding everyone. A

bit of sexist humor on this Monday morning which I hope Zenbob does not find

offensive. We love you buddy. Welcome back Greg (He is our leg!)! We missed

you and thanks for the report. You might have noted that both Jan and Dan

rhyme with "He is our Man!" I can't figure out what to make your name rhyme

with yet.

 

I received a private note from David Bozzi (one of our leading health

experts here) on Brewer's yeast. He feels it is a good product but no

substitute for whey protein. David also felt that Brewer's yeast has an odor

and could lead to a body odor problem. I don't know if he was serious or

not. Probably views on this are bound to differ. Hopefully David will keep

us informed from time to time about his cutting edge information in the area

of good health and anti-aging. Aleks and Jan and others are free to comment

on Brewer's yeast if they like. The following is mostly a repeat with

important changes that should read carefully anyway.

 

Thanks Dan (He is still our man!) and Jan (He is still our man!), Gloria,

Gene and Geovani and Antoine, and Greg, for your brilliant and compassionate

wisdom and totally tremendous insights. Let us thank Jan (He is also our

man!), Mira, Chris, Diana, Patrick, Holmes, TG, Dan (still our man!), Nora,

Dirk, Jill, Eric, Jay, Michel, Ivan, Tony, Raven, Christopher, Colette,

Dharma, Gloria, Janpa, Max, Bruce, David, Annette, Tim, Gill, Tony, Linda,

Gene, Gloria, Jerry, Chris, Antoine, Holly, and so many others for your

sharing in silence and in words and your many wise posts, sometimes

beautiful poetry, and insights. We are around 156 members or so. As you all

know, the foundation of this list is built on the Satsangha based on the

philosophy of divine love and nonviolence. All discussions are in that

context. In this world, where conflict, struggle and wars have been the

rule, there have been sages such as Mahavir who have explicitly stated that

Non-violence is the cardinal principle to live by if one wants to give peace

and attain peace. Buddha has emphasized compassion. In Hinduism, Ahimsa is

considered the first principle of the spiritual life. Ramana Maharshi, the

great sage of Arunachala has clearly stated, Ahimsa Param Dharma which means

that nonviolence is the supreme religion. Nonviolence is the most beautiful

expression and manifestation of the unconditioned recognition of the Nature

of Reality. We have brilliant and wise people moderating the list in silence

and in words and we are grateful to them..

 

Love to all

Harsha

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>"atsilaaktahi" <atsilaaktahi

>

>snip

>>The only one recurring theme that runs through all of the different

peoples

>that is the same is their dependance on the geography of the place where

>they lived! The earth, the land and all it's creatures (including rocks,

>rivers,

>weather and plants, etc) were revered as an extension of the family. The

>earth

>is the Mother, as she provides and supports life, and all else were honored

>for

>the continuance of life.

>This is right to the core of the beliefs of every people. snip

>So, I will stop here. I can post on the beliefs of the Cherokee, and I can

>make reference to other peoples ceremonies and beliefs only as much as

>I know of them. I can dispell many of the myths that have been propagated

>about many different aspects of the people who were here before the

>Euro "Manifest Destiny" movement.

>I thank you for opening your hearts with compassion and understanding.

>I won't overwhelm this list with this subject, but will post occasionally

>with what I feel guided to share, or may even fit in with other discussions

>that may be going on, as a point of contrast or similiarity, if that is ok

>with you all. Your questions are welcome too.

>wado utsadv (thank you for your kindness)

>aisv nvwadohiyada ale nvwatohiyadv (walk in peace and harmony)

>atsila aktahi (fire eyes)

>We were contented to let things remain as the Great Spirit made them.

> Chief Joseph 1873

>

Dear atsila aktahi,

 

Now it does not seem right to use only half your name, seeing how the

meaning requires both. You honor us with your presence. Thank you for all

that you have shared, the appreciation for the gifts of Mother Earth is

especially meaningful. I remember from reading "Black Elk Speaks" and

writings of Joseph Campbell how this closeness to the earth manifests as

love for creatures and all of creation based on an intimate knowledge that

is often lost to us who dwell in civilization. The list has spoken before to

the connection of ahimsa with ecology and reverence for all forms of life.

So when you say this is right to the core beliefs of all the the indigenous

people, despite other diversity, I see there is always this common ground to

be found no matter any other beliefs. With this as source, the wisdom from

it can only flower in harmony.

 

wado utsadv to you,

 

Gloria