Guest guest Posted October 21, 1999 Report Share Posted October 21, 1999 Ashoka Raj wrote: > The question of finding happiness is simple yet difficult. > I agree that no formula will suffice. Still, insights of others may be useful. I look > forward to communications here. We only seek for what is not here. How far is happiness from here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 1999 Report Share Posted October 21, 1999 >Sir, thank you for responding. The question of finding happiness is simple yet difficult. I agree that no formula will suffice. Still, insights of others may be useful. I look forward to communications here. I pondered on this enlightening question for quite a while. Of course, I couldn't come up with any answer since I'm not happy all the time. So I had to look at when I was happy, and what was the cause of that. I see that I'm happy when I am doing what I love to do... it doesn't matter what it is -- EVEN to the extent of doing something I wouldn't normally like to do, but I'm doing it for another reason, which would be love. An example of that would be, one Christmas I got myself in some deep debt. After Christmas, checks started bouncing, and I knew I had to do something quick. I hadn't worked for quite awhile as I truly enjoy retirement. But, I did what I had to do. I got a job, and it was wonderful! I payed off my debts after about 3 months, enjoying every minute of the time spent working. About that same time my bills were paid off, I lost interest in working and it wasn't fun anymore. And so I quit. Happiness is doing what you love. In that particular case, I loved to pay off my debts, so no matter what I did to accomplish this, it would bring me happiness. I feel we are Love, and when we are being who we truly are, then we can't help but be happy. Because we are love, the only way to express this love is to create with love... do what makes us happy, which is doing what we would love to do, no matter the form. Being and doing, then, are the same. Glad you are here with us Ashok. I've been enjoying your posts! Love, xxxtg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 1999 Report Share Posted October 22, 1999 LeTeegee >Sir, thank you for responding. The question of finding happiness is simple yet difficult. I agree that no formula will suffice. Still, insights of others may be useful. I look forward to communications here. I pondered on this enlightening question for quite a while. Of course, I couldn't come up with any answer since I'm not happy all the time. So I had to look at when I was happy, and what was the cause of that. I see that I'm happy when I am doing what I love to do... it doesn't matter what it is -- EVEN to the extent of doing something I wouldn't normally like to do, but I'm doing it for another reason, which would be love. An example of that would be, one Christmas I got myself in some deep debt. After Christmas, checks started bouncing, and I knew I had to do something quick. I hadn't worked for quite awhile as I truly enjoy retirement. But, I did what I had to do. I got a job, and it was wonderful! I payed off my debts after about 3 months, enjoying every minute of the time spent working. About that same time my bills were paid off, I lost interest in working and it wasn't fun anymore. And so I quit. Happiness is doing what you love. In that particular case, I loved to pay off my debts, so no matter what I did to accomplish this, it would bring me happiness. I feel we are Love, and when we are being who we truly are, then we can't help but be happy. Because we are love, the only way to express this love is to create with love... do what makes us happy, which is doing what we would love to do, no matter the form. Being and doing, then, are the same. Glad you are here with us Ashok. I've been enjoying your posts! Love, xxxtg Thank you soul sister xxxtg for your kind and thoughtful response. I will reflect over all that you have said. Actually, the question of happiness is not pressing me too much at this time. It comes and goes. I suffer sometimes from the unhappiness of others as I do not wish to see people in sorrow. After much thought though, I am unable to come to a conclusion on why there is much suffering in the world, including my own. The human condition seems to be a difficult one and not under our control. This is hard to overlook. Thank you again xxxtg. Namaste A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 1999 Report Share Posted October 22, 1999 INSprofess Hi Ashok! It would seem to me that happiness is a state of mind, just like unhappiness is a state of mind. More importantly, happiness and unhappiness are both relative terms! You say you would like to be happy, and the question is happier than whom? Happier than what? Things like love, material goods and all may bring gratification and temporary pleasures, but it is doubtful they bring happiness. I heard Ross Perot once say that money or material goods never never brought him happiness. So the search for happiness, my friend, must begin with you with a genuine introspection as to why you are unhappy. Logic would seem to dictate that if you remove the causes of your unhappiness, you will be more happier. But life's circumstances are generally such that one needs continuously to work toward getting happiness, and maintaining that level of happiness. In effect, what I am saying is that only YOU can know what makes you happy and unhappy and, therefore, only YOU can decide what you have to do to get a state of happiness you desire. Navneet Thank you soul brother for your excellent analysis of the situation. You raise some thought provoking points. Yes. Ultimately, it is up to all of us to pursue happiness in our own way and remove the cause of unhappiness. Lord Buddha spoke about this also. How to remove the cause of unhappiiness by following the noble path. The 8 step noble path is hard to practice all the time. I apologize to everyone. I seem to be taking too much attention from everyone here like a small child. Thank you for the kindness. I will be quiet for a while. Namaste A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 1999 Report Share Posted October 22, 1999 Hi Ashok! It would seem to me that happiness is a state of mind, just like unhappiness is a state of mind. More importantly, happiness and unhappiness are both relative terms! You say you would like to be happy, and the question is happier than whom? Happier than what? Things like love, material goods and all may bring gratification and temporary pleasures, but it is doubtful they bring happiness. I heard Ross Perot once say that money or material goods never never brought him happiness. So the search for happiness, my friend, must begin with you with a genuine introspection as to why you are unhappy. Logic would seem to dictate that if you remove the causes of your unhappiness, you will be more happier. But life's circumstances are generally such that one needs continuously to work toward getting happiness, and maintaining that level of happiness. In effect, what I am saying is that only YOU can know what makes you happy and unhappy and, therefore, only YOU can decide what you have to do to get a state of happiness you desire. Navneet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 1999 Report Share Posted October 22, 1999 "Jan Barendrecht" <janb On 10/20/99 at 8:02 AM Ashoka Raj wrote: >"Ashoka Raj" <ashokaraja > >I have come to learn from you. Your wisdom will be my guide and my friend. I >wish to find happiness, perhaps like what many of you have found. How does >one find happiness? Teach me. > >In humility I guess you're after unconditional happiness, which means happiness that doesn't have a cause and consequently won't have an end. Think of unconditional happiness "the other way around": who would care to go on living "as usual" when unconditionally happy? Life would grind to a halt completely, with all creatures just belly gazing So there is a reason why unconditional happiness isn't accessed at the flick of a switch. Finding that happiness reminds of the muddy pond with rotting leaves etc., stirred up by the winds of thoughts and emotions. When the winds subside and the mud has sunk, a piece of the bottom can be seen and it appears to be made of the purest gold. Then, a big clean up follows, taking many years. Jan Thank you soul sister! We are in this mud together! I welcome your call to clearance of the rotting leaves stirred by thoughts and emotions and seeing the purest gold. May the big cleanup be soft and gentle. Namaste A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 1999 Report Share Posted October 22, 1999 In a message dated 10/22/1999 9:09:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, janb writes: << Finding that happiness reminds of the muddy pond with rotting leaves etc., stirred up by the winds of thoughts and emotions. When the winds subside and the mud has sunk, a piece of the bottom can be seen and it appears to be made of the purest gold. Then, a big clean up follows, taking many years. >> I love this!! Spiritual work as a giant dredging/reclaimation project. Bring on the bucket loaders! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 1999 Report Share Posted October 22, 1999 On 10/20/99 at 8:02 AM Ashoka Raj wrote: >"Ashoka Raj" <ashokaraja > >I have come to learn from you. Your wisdom will be my guide and my friend. I >wish to find happiness, perhaps like what many of you have found. How does >one find happiness? Teach me. > >In humility I guess you're after unconditional happiness, which means happiness that doesn't have a cause and consequently won't have an end. Think of unconditional happiness "the other way around": who would care to go on living "as usual" when unconditionally happy? Life would grind to a halt completely, with all creatures just belly gazing So there is a reason why unconditional happiness isn't accessed at the flick of a switch. Finding that happiness reminds of the muddy pond with rotting leaves etc., stirred up by the winds of thoughts and emotions. When the winds subside and the mud has sunk, a piece of the bottom can be seen and it appears to be made of the purest gold. Then, a big clean up follows, taking many years. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 1999 Report Share Posted October 24, 1999 Ashoka Raj wrote: > I have come to learn from you. Your wisdom will be my guide and my friend. I > wish to find happiness, perhaps like what many of you have found. How does > one find happiness? Teach me. > > In humility Your humility brings joy to my heart, thank you for the happiness you share. Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 1999 Report Share Posted October 24, 1999 I just love the colors you put in the back grounds, each email with the title "Request" comes like a little surprise to open, just for the color. Thank you for the smile you bring to my heart, each time i open one the request emails, i want my color In all childhood, Antoine Ashoka Raj wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 1999 Report Share Posted October 24, 1999 >Antoine <carrea > >Ashoka Raj wrote: > > > I have come to learn from you. Your wisdom will be my guide and my >friend. I > > wish to find happiness, perhaps like what many of you have found. How >does > > one find happiness? Teach me. > > > > In humility > >Your humility brings joy to my heart, thank you for the happiness you >share. > >Antoine > Thank you Antoine. I can imagine your big smile. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 1999 Report Share Posted October 25, 1999 > Thank you Antoine. I can imagine your big smile. > > A You see everything, Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 The robes are obtained through whatever Order the monk is associated with. The protocols for the clothing worn is quite sacred and a delicate matter. Appropriating a vestige which is not authorized can cause an act of great disrespect . Usually the robes are made from inside the Order, and there is a ranking involved. Apparently the cloths do not come from a mill, may be hand woven and then dyed which makes them quite individual. This is not a commercial activity and is not something one orders as from a catalog. The robes have great spiritual significance. In order to make such connections I recommend that you go through a Guru of the Dalai Lama's Order who can answer your question more directly and correctly. My searches on the internet led me to the above answer. , michael bindel <michael_bindel wrote: > > Dear members > > could you please let me know how the colour of the cloth DALAI LAMA wears is called and where it is possible to order cloth in this colour? > > all the best to all of you > > > michael bindel > > > > > > > What are the most popular cars? Find out at Autos > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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