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Upon reflection there are three possible teachers that I have met here

in town.

 

Is there a right way and a wrong way to approach them to ask if I could

learn with them?

 

It probably depends on the individual and the "fit".

 

Any +keys+ to share?

 

Lynne

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Lynne Helwig wrote:

> Upon reflection there are three possible teachers that I have met here

> in town.

>

> Is there a right way and a wrong way to approach them to ask if I could

> learn with them?

>

> It probably depends on the individual and the "fit".

>

> Any +keys+ to share?

>

> Lynne

 

Nice to hear from you, Lynne--did you say goodbye to the NondualitySalon and

hello to Harsha? Since so many of us suscribe to both, at

least we don't have to give you up. Good luck on your search in London--

isn't UWO where the For Better For Worse son went to college??

A word to the wise--stay away from the Suma Ching Hai folks--they're nice

and all and have great food, but i don't think they have a whole lot

to offer..i know they are very active in London(been there, done that--not in

London,alas)

 

>

>

> > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back

into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean,

all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does

not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is.

Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee

relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into

It Self. Welcome all to a.

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Hi Lynne:

 

Welcome to . I don't know if what I have to say are 'keys'

but it is important to find some good tools for meditation and self-inquiry.

It is also good to have some others to with whom you can share your findings

and questions. This sharing is what is wonderful about this group as the

sincerity of truth and compassion here is a source of both comfort and

growth.

 

As for looking for a teacher it is good to keep in mind that this is a

journey of 'self' and eventually it comes back to what is within you. Any

good teacher will not lose sight of the fact that you already know and

already are 'it'. If a teacher seems really into his own pumped up

self-image there is a problem, if he believes that he has the only truth and

the best path there is a problem. There is a difference between respect and

fear. Observe the other students do they seem afraid to question? Do they

seem appear peaceful to be around the teacher? If you are afraid to

approach a certain person I would take that as a signal that it is not a

right fit. As we move closer to the truth of self there is a tendency for

the ego to rear it's head in a big way and as a result of this part of the

journey there can be too much unrecognized ego in many who believe that they

are qualified to lead others. As Dan stated in a earlier post "The Garden

of Eden is a Dangerous Place" - (sorry Dan if I mis-quoted but that is how I

remember the words). It is good that the Garden of Eden is also the best

place to be.

 

Namaste,

Linda

>Upon reflection there are three possible teachers that I have met here

>in town.

>Is there a right way and a wrong way to approach them to ask if I could

>learn with them?

>It probably depends on the individual and the "fit".

>Any +keys+ to share?

 

<Lynne

 

All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness.

Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is

where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal

Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously

arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

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Linda Callanan [shastra]

Thursday, November 04, 1999 8:10 AM

RE: Possibilities

 

"Linda Callanan" <shastra

 

Hi Lynne:

 

Welcome to . I don't know if what I have to say are 'keys'

but it is important to find some good tools for meditation and self-inquiry.

It is also good to have some others to with whom you can share your findings

and questions. This sharing is what is wonderful about this group as the

sincerity of truth and compassion here is a source of both comfort and

growth.

 

As for looking for a teacher it is good to keep in mind that this is a

journey of 'self' and eventually it comes back to what is within you. Any

good teacher will not lose sight of the fact that you already know and

already are 'it'. If a teacher seems really into his own pumped up

self-image there is a problem, if he believes that he has the only truth and

the best path there is a problem. There is a difference between respect and

fear. Observe the other students do they seem afraid to question? Do they

seem appear peaceful to be around the teacher? If you are afraid to

approach a certain person I would take that as a signal that it is not a

right fit. As we move closer to the truth of self there is a tendency for

the ego to rear it's head in a big way and as a result of this part of the

journey there can be too much unrecognized ego in many who believe that they

are qualified to lead others. As Dan stated in a earlier post "The Garden

of Eden is a Dangerous Place" - (sorry Dan if I mis-quoted but that is how I

remember the words). It is good that the Garden of Eden is also the best

place to be.

 

Namaste,

Linda

 

Well said Linda and Dan on the topic of finding teachers. Welcome to all the

new members. And thanks for many insightful posts from Rainbo, Melody,

Janpa, Mike, Michele, Dan, Dirk, Jan, Xena, Lynne, Nora, Gloria, Antoine,

Andrew, David, Carolyn, Xan, Nasir, Dharma, Greg, Jim, Holly, and others. I

am sorry to see Mike leave but I understand people are busy with a number of

things. Misunderstandings are bound to happen on occasion on the e-mail

forum. With some sensitivity and reflection these can be resolved.

Nonviolence and compassion are the underlying themes that color the

interaction in this Sangha. We enforce these with an iron fist! :). Just

kidding. A little humor, that's all.

 

Remember Kojak. He was bald, always sucking a lollypop and used to say, "Hey

who loves you baby" . I was thinking, maybe this could be the accepted

a line any member can use to make up with another member with

whom they have done a philosophical tango with. Just a thought.

 

Hey, who loves you baby?

Harsha

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Dear Harsha,

> ----------

> Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)[sMTP:hluthar]

> Friday, November 05, 1999 12:08 AM

>

> RE: Possibilities

>

> "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar

>

> I am sorry to see Mike leave but I understand people are busy with a

> number of

> things. Misunderstandings are bound to happen on occasion on the e-mail

> forum. With some sensitivity and reflection these can be resolved.

>

Your understanding is the understanding of Truth. Everyone is unique and has

different level in their satisfaction. A child will satisfied when got toy,

but the man will not. The man may be will satisfied when got real car.

Some peoples need only chanting mantra, another ones need only meditation,

doing ritual and etc, very plural.

Sorry, this is not my speech and i know i'm not in the 'position' to give a

speech.:-) That's the speech of Dharma form a monks that we invited last

night in celebration of Kathina day.

I know that all of you here understood this in your mind very well :-)

> Nonviolence and compassion are the underlying themes that color the

> interaction in this Sangha. We enforce these with an iron fist! :). Just

> kidding. A little humor, that's all.

>

Sometime the iron fist is the way of making peoples undertand and make them

'satisfied'. :-)

> Remember Kojak. He was bald, always sucking a lollypop and used to say,

> "Hey

> who loves you baby" . I was thinking, maybe this could be the accepted

> a line any member can use to make up with another member

> with

> whom they have done a philosophical tango with. Just a thought.

>

> Hey, who loves you baby?

>

Hmmmmmm i love myself (my ego said)

 

With Love and Ego,

Nasir

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