Guest guest Posted November 9, 1999 Report Share Posted November 9, 1999 Sai Ram Brothers and Sisters, One time in the outback of Australia, I was the subject of a psychic attack. By of all people a Pake-ha,( White person from New Zealand). It seemed he had been trained by a Maori Tofunga, or Shaman. I don't know exactly why he put this spell on me. He was working for me at the time, perhaps there was an element of jealousy involved. Or perhaps because he said he was a witch and I poo-pooed it, as a load of codswallop. he was to teach me a lesson. Anyway I vaguely remember someone in my room in the wee hours, and on waking up I noticed that my legs felt strange. As the day progressed the feeling started coming up my legs and I was having some trouble walking. I wasn't into any spiritual or psychic stuff at the time so I thought I must need some vitamins. Whilst in town getting the vitamins I noticed an Aboriginal woman constantly staring at me. As if she could see something that I couldn't . They are extremely spiritual and psychic! To cut a long story short; As I was driving back to town I was overcome by a blissful energy going right through me, and I found myself saying over and over," I love God". Which was strange for an agnostic to do. After this experience my legs were alright . It wasn't until years later, when during my spiritual quest I read up on the Hawaiian Huna. I then realised this witch had put a curse on me that was eating up my energy. I figured it must be spirits or thoughtforms for the Aboriginal lady could see them. As he had been in my room it also occurred to me that a certain amount of hynotism was probably involved, hence 'thoughtforms'. I finally figured out, years later, that the energy was the rise of K and it was cleansing away the thoughtforms. Whether this was done by my future Guru as Sai Baba or the Inner Guru, I don't know. I just know that thoughts are things and curses are real. Any thoughts???????? Another subject: With regard to Western Philosophers, I don't notice any real 'how to', teachings with regard to Liberation, even if they are non-dual. As opposed to the science of Liberation taught in the East/India. Love Tony. Vancouver. ===== http://members.xoom.com/aoclery/ (glossary incl?) Keep on truckin-Chant the Gayatri! Breathe So----Ham! "God is formless. In order to merge in the formless God, you have to give up identification with the body." "There is only one 'Soul' and 'That' is God." Sai Baba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 1999 Report Share Posted November 9, 1999 At 01:55 PM 11/9/99 -0800, Tony O'Clery wrote: >As if she could see something that I couldn't . They >are extremely spiritual and psychic! > >To cut a long story short; As I was driving back to >town I was overcome by a blissful energy going right >through me, and I found myself saying over and over," >I love God". Which was strange for an agnostic to do. >After this experience my legs were alright . > >It wasn't until years later, when during my spiritual >quest I read up on the Hawaiian Huna. I then realised >this witch had put a curse on me that was eating up my >energy. I figured it must be spirits or thoughtforms >for the Aboriginal lady could see them. As he had been >in my room it also occurred to me that a certain >amount of hynotism was probably involved, hence >'thoughtforms'. Thanks for sharing this story! Another subject: > With regard to Western Philosophers, I don't notice >any real 'how to', teachings with regard to >Liberation, even if they are non-dual. As opposed to >the science of Liberation taught in the East/India. This is true. To most Western philosophers it's a purely intellectual exercise. No soteriological or spiritual motives to their writing. Even some like Schopenhauer who were exposed to Eastern teachings don't prescribe any methods. But the arguments can be part of one's path. With love, --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 1999 Report Share Posted November 9, 1999 On Tue, 09 Nov 1999 17:17:14 -0500 Greg Goode <goode writes: > At 01:55 PM 11/9/99 -0800, Tony O'Clery wrote: > > > >As if she could see something that I couldn't . They > >are extremely spiritual and psychic! > > > >To cut a long story short; As I was driving back to > >town I was overcome by a blissful energy going right > >through me, and I found myself saying over and over," > >I love God". Which was strange for an agnostic to do. > >After this experience my legs were alright . > > > >It wasn't until years later, when during my spiritual > >quest I read up on the Hawaiian Huna. I then realised > >this witch had put a curse on me that was eating up my > >energy. I figured it must be spirits or thoughtforms > >for the Aboriginal lady could see them. As he had been > >in my room it also occurred to me that a certain > >amount of hynotism was probably involved, hence > >'thoughtforms'. > > Thanks for sharing this story! > > Another subject: > > With regard to Western Philosophers, I don't notice > >any real 'how to', teachings with regard to > >Liberation, even if they are non-dual. As opposed to > >the science of Liberation taught in the East/India. > > This is true. To most Western philosophers it's a purely > intellectual > exercise. No soteriological or spiritual motives to their writing. > Even > some like Schopenhauer who were exposed to Eastern teachings don't > prescribe any methods. But the arguments can be part of one's path. > Yes, and the "methods" prescribed in the East are many, diverse, and a *long* way from deterministic. http://come.to/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm _ _________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 1999 Report Share Posted November 9, 1999 In a message dated 99-11-09 23:33:17 EST, you write: << "Gloria Lee" <glee Would someone who got the original post from Tony, please re-post it as a whole. It looks like onelist is again not getting posts thru to all of us. I am only seeing replies, already snipped. Thanks. Glo >> ================================== Subj: Psychic attacks. 99-11-09 16:55:56 EST aoclery (Tony O'Clery) Reply-to: Kundalini Tony O'Clery <aoclery Sai Ram Brothers and Sisters, One time in the outback of Australia, I was the subject of a psychic attack. By of all people a Pake-ha,( White person from New Zealand). It seemed he had been trained by a Maori Tofunga, or Shaman. I don't know exactly why he put this spell on me. He was working for me at the time, perhaps there was an element of jealousy involved. Or perhaps because he said he was a witch and I poo-pooed it, as a load of codswallop. he was to teach me a lesson. Anyway I vaguely remember someone in my room in the wee hours, and on waking up I noticed that my legs felt strange. As the day progressed the feeling started coming up my legs and I was having some trouble walking. I wasn't into any spiritual or psychic stuff at the time so I thought I must need some vitamins. Whilst in town getting the vitamins I noticed an Aboriginal woman constantly staring at me. As if she could see something that I couldn't . They are extremely spiritual and psychic! To cut a long story short; As I was driving back to town I was overcome by a blissful energy going right through me, and I found myself saying over and over," I love God". Which was strange for an agnostic to do. After this experience my legs were alright . It wasn't until years later, when during my spiritual quest I read up on the Hawaiian Huna. I then realised this witch had put a curse on me that was eating up my energy. I figured it must be spirits or thoughtforms for the Aboriginal lady could see them. As he had been in my room it also occurred to me that a certain amount of hynotism was probably involved, hence 'thoughtforms'. I finally figured out, years later, that the energy was the rise of K and it was cleansing away the thoughtforms. Whether this was done by my future Guru as Sai Baba or the Inner Guru, I don't know. I just know that thoughts are things and curses are real. Any thoughts???????? Another subject: With regard to Western Philosophers, I don't notice any real 'how to', teachings with regard to Liberation, even if they are non-dual. As opposed to the science of Liberation taught in the East/India. Love Tony. Vancouver. ===== http://members.xoom.com/aoclery/ (glossary incl?) Keep on truckin-Chant the Gayatri! Breathe So----Ham! "God is formless. In order to merge in the formless God, you have to give up identification with the body." "There is only one 'Soul' and 'That' is God." Sai Baba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 1999 Report Share Posted November 9, 1999 Would someone who got the original post from Tony, please re-post it as a whole. It looks like onelist is again not getting posts thru to all of us. I am only seeing replies, already snipped. Thanks. Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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