Guest guest Posted November 5, 1999 Report Share Posted November 5, 1999 from another list: subject-object dualism For some time I have been focusing on this issue. Every meditation worth it's salt is supposed to dissolve this dualism.Can one can see that all disharmony and difficulties comes from not knowing what to do with this subject-object relationship? Ordinarily the world is divided into subjects and objects. I look at you, I go to work, I sit on a chair. In all these activities I think of myself as the subject relating to an object, you, my work, the chair etc. Not really dissolving the dualism (most of the time we only think we have done so) I see the objects as the source of my problems. You are my problem, my work is my problem, this chair is a problem. (When I see myself as a problem I have converted myself into an object.) So I run from objects which I perceive as problems and seek those objects which I perceive as non- problems (in this New Age objects like seeking, searching for truth, peace, serenity, Enlightenment, Ultimate, service to other, charity, etc etc) >From this point of view Life consists of me and things that please me, or don't please me. Much of the so called meditative techniques (Like Positive Thinking and I like) focuses on emptying the object of the "conditioning" that we have attached to it. Conditioning like this gives me joy, that doesn't. I then congratulate myself because such a state is blissful because the empty object is no longer troublesome to us. But the dualism still remains because somebody, some inner voice is still saying "This is It". A hidden subject remains observing a blank object. When we return to daily life, the blissful state dissipates and we are back into the subject-object dualism. True meditation does not get rid of the object, but sees the object for what it is. It is about "being" in which there is no subject or object and hence no separation. There is still me and there's still you but when I realise that I am just my experience of you, there is no separation between you and me. The other issue of true meditation is that if it is all about achieving oneness with all things and let's forget the esoteric subjects like God, Ultimate etc etc and let's look at just a mundane activity like washing my car. If I can be just totally washing the car there is a paradox here. The paradox is that in "trying" to be one with the washing, with god, with Truth etc, we still create the dualism, the "tryer" and the object of "trying". In trying to become IT we are separate from IT. The very effort defeats itself. However there is something that I can do. And that is to be aware of the thoughts separating me from the activity. I can be aware that I am not fully doing what I am doing (eg eating dinner and mentally planning etc). Instead of saying or thinking that I'm going to be one with the washing of the car which is dualistic I can notice what I am not doing (ie not really washing the car but getting steadily mad that the car cleaner did not come and how out of shape am I ) To me meditation is not about having profound experiences, or great realisations, not about getting to the 7th Light or becoming ONE. For me meditation is simply maintaining awareness - of my activities and my thoughts that separate me from the activity. An Tibetan translation which goes something like this "Awareness is our true self; It's what we are. So we don't have to try to develop awareness: we simply need to notice how we block awareness with our thoughts, our fantasies, our opinions, our judgements. We're either in awareness, which is our natural state or we are doing something else. The mark of a mature meditator is that most of the time they don't do something else. They are just here and now, living their life. Nothing special. Ultimate freedom is when there is no object and no subject. What is left is then only Awareness which itself is nothing and yet the whole universe exists through it." What to do when one gets lost in thoughts? Nothing, just notice that you are lost and you are back in awareness. For example thinking "I am meditating" is getting lost into the thought of meditation. That's not meditation. Noticing this thought, rather than looking for Lights, or Bells or Angels is the real meditation. >From this premise of awareness as real meditation one stumbles onto a fact that if and when I am totally the activity I am engaged in, I as I, am no more at least for this brief period. For God or whatever that brief period is eternity. In zikr Sandeep "It is not the easy or convenient life for which I search but rather life lived to the edge of all my possibility!" Mary Anne Radmacher-Hershey ------ There are 2 messages in this issue. Topics in today's digest: 1. Subject-Object Dualism "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepc 2. (no subject) SINGINGCAW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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