Guest guest Posted November 9, 1999 Report Share Posted November 9, 1999 >> > With regard to Western Philosophers, I don't notice >> >any real 'how to', teachings with regard to >> >Liberation, even if they are non-dual. As opposed to >> >the science of Liberation taught in the East/India. >> >> This is true. To most Western philosophers it's a purely >> intellectual >> exercise. No soteriological or spiritual motives to their writing. >> Even >> some like Schopenhauer who were exposed to Eastern teachings don't >> prescribe any methods. But the arguments can be part of one's path. >> >Yes, and the "methods" >prescribed in the East are >many, diverse, and a *long* >way from deterministic. No methods proposed by Western philosophers? Wait just a sec... Methods proposed by Western philosophers (in random order): Plato: sit in a cave and watch the shadows cast by a fire Alan Watts, Tim Leary, Richard Alpert: take lots of LSD Meister Eckhardt: Contemplate the nature of Godhead Socrates: Ask questions Jesus: Direct prayer/communion with the divine intentional fasting Issac Luria: Intense meditation using letters of divine names William Blake: Use of poetic imagination, prophetic vision Carl Jung: Active imagination; exploration of dreams and creativity Hildegaard Von Bingen: Devotion to Divine Love Leonardo da Vinci: Integrate rationality and aesthetics Sigmund Freud: Profound self-analysis and release of past emotional patterns Moses: Spend 40 years in the desert Abraham: reject any images of divinity as truth Paul: organize a community John Cage: integrate silence and sound Wittgenstein: recognize the limits of language Some of these methods are very valuable in my opinion. --- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 1999 Report Share Posted November 10, 1999 You forgot to mention the Dutch nondual philosopher Spinoza (probably spontaneous awakened): http://www.blupete.com/Literature/Biographies/Philosophy/Spinoza.htm http://www.essentia.com/book/enlighten/spinoza.htm http://users.erols.com/jyselman/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 1999 Report Share Posted November 10, 1999 Thanks for these links. I was going to add him to the WesternPhilosophers page on Jerry's site (www3.ns.sympatico.ca/umbada/western.htm), and now this gives me a push to do it even sooner. --Greg At 06:18 PM 11/10/99 +0000, Jan Barendrecht wrote: >"Jan Barendrecht" <janb > >You forgot to mention the Dutch nondual philosopher Spinoza (probably >spontaneous awakened): >http://www.blupete.com/Literature/Biographies/Philosophy/Spinoza.htm >http://www.essentia.com/book/enlighten/spinoza.htm >http://users.erols.com/jyselman/ > >>All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, >perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and >subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not >different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the >nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. >It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the >Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of >Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome >all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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