Guest guest Posted November 12, 1999 Report Share Posted November 12, 1999 In a message dated 11/11/99 7:09:35 PM Central Standard Time, janb writes: << If you would have known that what was interpreted as threat was but the roar of a paper tiger, would that have made a difference in your responses? >> Nope. as a buddhist - i take all threats to life very seriously. And as it happens - I have some personal experience with this sort of thing. An individual can get drunk every weekend of his/her life and threaten to shoot someone. And one weekend - after years of this - the person pulls out a gun and shoots people until the weapon is empty. Laughing all the while. WHICH threat - should not have been taken seriously? You see - it was not that the original threat was false. Although it took years to come to fruitition. It was only a matter of time - and timing. When someone makes a threat - that goes beyond the bounds of accepted 'civilized' behavior. What habitual behavior for you folks! <g> Someone makes a threat and as a matter of habit - you immediately tell him/her how much you 'love' them. And ASSUME they are 'just in a bad place' etc. And are harmless, having a bad day, etc. If this is not habitual behavior and does not reflect a set in stone world view - then what does? I suppose the day trader who killed several people in his office - was just having a bad day:) I believe he had been threatening to 'blow everything away' for a while. (Or at least the shooter in one of the mass office killings recently had been). His co-workers just laughed, told him they liked him and come off it - and ignored him. And now they are dead. If YOU can tell somehow - psychically or otherwise - which threats made by a person are real - then you need to be in law inforcement. The authorities need your kind of help! diana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 1999 Report Share Posted November 12, 1999 On 11/12/99 at 8:45 AM Xena10000 wrote: >In a message dated 11/11/99 7:09:35 PM Central Standard Time, >janb writes: > ><< If you would have known that what was interpreted as threat was but the >roar of a paper tiger, would that have made a difference in your responses? >> > >Nope. as a buddhist - i take all threats to life very seriously. And as it >happens - I have some personal experience with this sort of thing. An >individual can get drunk every weekend of his/her life and threaten to shoot >someone. And one weekend - after years of this - the person pulls out a gun >and shoots people until the weapon is empty. Laughing all the while. In that case, why not behave in such a way as never to meet threats? In the US, in principle any kid can gun you down - without a threat. In Holland there is a famous saying "barking dogs don't bite" - so beware of silent dogs. > >WHICH threat - should not have been taken seriously? You see - it was not >that the original threat was false. Although it took years to come to >fruitition. It was only a matter of time - and timing. Knowing the history can be useful. Ask the one responsible - in this case, the list owner. >When someone makes a threat - that goes beyond the bounds of accepted >'civilized' behavior. What habitual behavior for you folks! <g> Someone makes >a threat and as a matter of habit - you immediately tell him/her how much you >'love' them. And ASSUME they are 'just in a bad place' etc. And are harmless, >having a bad day, etc. On this planet, civilized behavior was abandoned long ago. Since then, egoism-driven emotionalism has ruled. The only proper behavior would have been: warn the one responsible and the victim(s) OFF LIST and on list, IGNORE. >If this is not habitual behavior and does not reflect a set in stone world >view - then what does? I suppose the day trader who killed several people in >his office - was just having a bad day:) I believe he had been threatening to >'blow everything away' for a while. (Or at least the shooter in one of the >mass office killings recently had been). His co-workers just laughed, told >him they liked him and come off it - and ignored him. And now they are dead. That doesn't come as a surprise of course. What do you think will happen to the "market value of a human being in capitalistic barbarism" with a global population growing this fast? The laws are for the owners of companies except when they become comparable in power to government poo-bahs. The US is ruled by dollars and guns and the system is called "democracy" because everyone is infected with the "big poo-bah dream", so cooperates with it. Emigration to peaceful Cape Verde would be the answer, unless you are an unmarried blonde with blue eyes (age unimportant but you can always wear brown contact lenses and dye the hair black... >If YOU can tell somehow - psychically or otherwise - which threats made by a >person are real - then you need to be in law inforcement. The authorities >need your kind of help! >diana The threat is real for the person who utters it and the one who believes in it; yet only one's reaction or its absence can cool down the mind of the one uttering a threat. But in the specific case, the list owner would probably have said off-list that consequent ignoring would have been effective; nothing else. However, in this era, self-discipline is at an all time low and people will react as if hit by a bullet, not realizing that anything said will be interpreted by the one uttering threats as a bullet too. If someone is perceived to ignore all principles of love, compassion and reason, my conclusion is that the perceiver can only ignore, at least "for the time being", eventually taking appropriate measures "behind the screen". BTW, long ago as former ant-war activist I battled authorities and for good reasons. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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