Guest guest Posted November 12, 1999 Report Share Posted November 12, 1999 At 08:35 AM 11/12/99 -0500, you wrote: >Xena10000 > >In a message dated 11/11/99 11:22:16 PM Central Standard Time, >ashokaraja writes: > ><< Probably you were a most beautiful couple. You can > still remain friends. >> > >Very funny! You 'were' joking? I do not know Dan B. I have seen his emails >over a period of a few weeks on this list. At the risk of being accused of a >personal attack - I would say Da'n point of view is permanently changed by >the fact that he is a therapist. And so has a particular mind-set regarding >problem-solving. > >Helpful sometimes - but still habitual behavior. No - Dan was making those >comments to me based on knowing nothing about me (except what he has read in >emails). When you're a hammer - the whole world is a nail. > >diana Ashoka, I see you as pointing to the value of "meeting", of finding a "place" to be together. I see you as indicating the value of nonjudgmental compassion. Diana and Ashoka, I will be glad to meet you and all in that place. -- Peace -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 1999 Report Share Posted November 12, 1999 >"Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd > >Ashoka, I see you as pointing to the value of "meeting", of finding > a "place" to be together. I see you as indicating the value of >nonjudgmental >compassion. Diana and Ashoka, I will be glad to meet you and all in that >place. > >-- Peace -- Dan > My apologies to all concerned. I misunderstood the exchange between Diana and Dan and interpreted it as a lover's quarrel. Thank you Dharma for writing me and filling me in privately. Tears of embarassment are running down my cheek. I don't know if I will be able to show my face at the summer retreat to any of you. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 1999 Report Share Posted November 12, 1999 Ashoka Raj <ashokaraja >>"Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd >> >>Ashoka, I see you as pointing to the value of "meeting", of finding >> a "place" to be together. I see you as indicating the value of >>nonjudgmental >>compassion. Diana and Ashoka, I will be glad to meet you and all in that >>place. >> >>-- Peace -- Dan >> > >My apologies to all concerned. I misunderstood the exchange between Diana >and Dan and interpreted it as a lover's quarrel. Thank you Dharma for >writing me and filling me in privately. Tears of embarassment are running >down my cheek. I don't know if I will be able to show my face at the summer >retreat to any of you. > >A > Ah, Ashoka..this is a trivial mistake. In another way, you may be correct! Just as the Buddhists say to think of everyone as having once been your dear mother in another life, surely we have all once been married to one another as well. This would explain all these misunderstandings as good as any other reason I can imagine. :) In any case, please attend the summer retreat. You are highly esteemed and a much loved contributor of wisdom. Everyone here has been confused by email misunderstandings of one sort or another, and even so your advice was so kind anyone might take it and benefit. With love, Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 1999 Report Share Posted November 12, 1999 Ashoka Raj wrote: >...I don't know if I >will be able to show my face at the summer >retreat to any of you. > >A I suggest that we all leave our faces at the door. andrew [_] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 1999 Report Share Posted November 15, 1999 The discussion simply started when my mother asked me, how i came to view telephaty today and how i would explain it to doctors, colleges of hers. After a while the three of us where looking to what in education, or society pushed us to forget about that ability we all have, that other also call intuition. Antoine Dear All, This is very interesting, as at the moment I'm dating a physician and psychiatrist (psychia's by definition are always physicians) who diagnoses people with both physical and intuitive, he works with those people everyone says "there is not a cure possible," with the terminal cancer patients, the cerebal palsy, and so on. And then he finds with all different sorts of treatments, psychological, Chinese, Western, everything together, a path for their treatment. It is rather incredible to watch him work, and it is very interesting that we had exactly this thread in discussion just a few weeks ago. (The thread of mind/body healing.) As he is always saying, "there are no accidents." Such a beautiful world, life is so fascinating, amazing actually. So, wanted to say to everyone, "beautiful world," here it is really exquisite this morning, with blue skies, very long large clouds drifting, and the leaves still colored like thousands of beautifully colored jungle birds the leaves are hanging by threads to the Trees. Laughing, probably like my attachments, I hang for dear life *g*! Love*Light, Annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 1999 Report Share Posted November 15, 1999 Ashoka Raj wrote: > My apologies to all concerned. I > misunderstood the exchange between Diana and > Dan and interpreted it as a lover's quarrel. > Thank you Dharma for writing me and filling > me in privately. Tears of embarassment are > running down my cheek. I don't know if I > will be able to show my face at the summer > retreat to any of you. > > A It makes me think about a nice discussion i had with my mother and my girlfriend of the moment. My girlfriend being a orthopedic surgeon and my mother a psychiatrist, the discussion was interesting by the clinical language used also. I took my Quantum physician coat in this discussion. The discussion simply started when my mother asked me, how i came to view telephaty today and how i would explain it to doctors, colleges of hers. After a while the three of us where looking to what in education, or society pushed us to forget about that ability we all have, that other also call intuition. And i believe Ashoka, that you express in your tears of embarrassment, the basic pattern, that is used in society, to refrain this ability. What is felt as obvious in your intuition is turned by others, as something you should feel bad about. And this, personally, i do no accept. I wakes up the Xena in me that wants to fight against all injustice I see. Making feel embarrassed such a pure soul, for expressing what is felt on the purest level, is a sin we are all guilty of as human beings i guess. If one is guilty, we all are.... What can be done about this? I do wonder... Meanwhile i wish i could be that mirror, in wish you look in Ashoka, in which you look in to see how beautiful your face is. Until no such mirror are needed anymore. In Love and Compassion, Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 1999 Report Share Posted November 15, 1999 RainboLily wrote: > And then he finds with all different sorts of treatments, psychological, Chinese, Western, everything together, a path for their treatment. > As he is always saying, "there are no accidents." > > Such a beautiful world, life is so fascinating, amazing actually. http://www.osho.com/zentarot/zen050.jpg Simply a picture to express this wonderful eye/art of touching the other in ever more ramifications, where the leafs becomes this wonderful soft tissue of existence. I accept you and love you as my friend in all your ramification beautiful Rainbow. Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 1999 Report Share Posted November 18, 1999 Thank you Antoine for your beauty of expression. You have a heart of kindness and I am grateful to be in your presence. A >Antoine <carrea > >Ashoka Raj wrote: > > > My apologies to all concerned. I > > misunderstood the exchange between Diana and > > Dan and interpreted it as a lover's quarrel. > > Thank you Dharma for writing me and filling > > me in privately. Tears of embarassment are > > running down my cheek. I don't know if I > > will be able to show my face at the summer > > retreat to any of you. > > > > A > >It makes me think about a nice discussion i had with my mother and my >girlfriend of the moment. My girlfriend being a orthopedic surgeon and >my mother a psychiatrist, the discussion was interesting by the clinical >language used also. I took my Quantum physician coat in this discussion. > >The discussion simply started when my mother asked me, how i came to >view telephaty today and how i would explain it to doctors, colleges of >hers. After a while the three of us where looking to what in education, >or society pushed us to forget about that ability we all have, that >other also call intuition. > >And i believe Ashoka, that you express in your tears of embarrassment, >the basic pattern, that is used in society, to refrain this ability. >What is felt as obvious in your intuition is turned by others, as >something you should feel bad about. > >And this, personally, i do no accept. I wakes up the Xena in me that >wants to fight against all injustice I see. > >Making feel embarrassed such a pure soul, for expressing what is felt on >the purest level, is a sin we are all guilty of as human beings i guess. >If one is guilty, we all are.... What can be done about this? I do >wonder... > >Meanwhile i wish i could be that mirror, in wish you look in Ashoka, in >which you look in to see how beautiful your face is. Until no such >mirror are needed anymore. > >In Love and Compassion, > >Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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