Guest guest Posted November 19, 1999 Report Share Posted November 19, 1999 Dear Antoine: Any words together can become a mantra and the meaning of the words will vary from one person to another due to their own perception. However, there is a 'science' to mantra that goes beyond the meaning of the words. Each letter of the Sanskrit alphabet corresponds to one of the petals on the 7 main chakras giving specific mantras the ability to work beyond the mind they....actually work one one's entire being. Just some fun mantra facts. Namaste, Linda >>>>>> Antoine <carrea >Taking a bunch of words, like let's say: >"Waiting for the time where we will be alone together." >is sentence will usually mean for one: >One and the other, like a couple, waiting for the moment when we will be without the many others, alone away from the others." This same first sentence may also mean for One: "One with the other, together, waiting for the time where there is no more other, or others, alone eternally together." "The sea refuses no rivers, ever so lonely", Sheila Chandra. Words or Mantra? Who really knows how they relate in meaning? All and each word may have the same meaning. Playing with words, Antoine>>>>>>>>>> -- Through the coming, going, and the balance of life The essential nature which illumines existence is the adorable one May all perceive through subtle intellect the brilliance of enlightenment. A translation of the Gayatri Mantra All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 1999 Report Share Posted November 19, 1999 Hello Linda, Fun is in learning. So having fun with you, if you want of course... My understanding of the exact science of mantra that you expose here is like a flower opening under a beautiful sunset, in the perfect conditions. In other words, it is a work put in the science of the Word so the growing of the seed becoming the perfect flower of petals is done in playfulness rather than in courage or pain. Of course I may be wrong about all this. The way I see it, one way of reading words those not exclude the other. The science of creating the perfect environment, the sun, the humidity level, the wind factor, the temperature all this converging in the focus of the flower opening in each of its atoms to all that she shines back beauty to. Yet someplace, everywhere, their is a One, or something, or nothing, that is behind the meaning of the perfect flower that is the same as the one behind the not so perfect one also. The sea refuses no river... May we dance eternally, Antoine Linda Callanan wrote: > > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Dear Antoine: > > Any words together can become a mantra and the meaning of the words will > vary from one person to another due to their own perception. However, there > is a 'science' to mantra that goes beyond the meaning of the words. Each > letter of the Sanskrit alphabet corresponds to one of the petals on the 7 > main chakras giving specific mantras the ability to work beyond the mind > they....actually work one one's entire being. > > Just some fun mantra facts. > > Namaste, > Linda > > >>>>>> Antoine <carrea > > >Taking a bunch of words, like let's say: > > >"Waiting for the time where we will be alone together." > > >is sentence will usually mean for one: > > >One and the other, like a couple, waiting for the moment when we will > be without the many others, alone away from the others." > > This same first sentence may also mean for One: > > "One with the other, together, waiting for the time where there is no > more other, or others, alone eternally together." > > "The sea refuses no rivers, ever so lonely", Sheila Chandra. > > Words or Mantra? > > Who really knows how they relate in meaning? > > All and each word may have the same meaning. > > Playing with words, > > Antoine>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 1999 Report Share Posted November 21, 1999 Hello Antoine: I enjoy your grasp of mantra as a flower opening under a beautiful sunset, in the perfect conditions. I tend to view mantra as a plow clearing the field for spiritual harvest. Language is so important no matter whether spoken or silent. I think of that childhood ditty "sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never harm me" and realize how untrue such a concept is......we forget physical pain rather quickly but years after hurtful words have been uttered the pain can still be felt. It is an important step in ahimsa to not use our words violently. >My understanding of the exact science of mantra that you expose here is >like a flower opening under a beautiful sunset, in the perfect >conditions. In other words, it is a work put in the science of the Word >so the growing of the seed becoming the perfect flower of petals is done >in playfulness rather than in courage or pain. Of course I may be wrong >about all this. The way I see it, one way of reading words those not >exclude the other. The science of creating the perfect environment, the >sun, the humidity level, the wind factor, the temperature all this >converging in the focus of the flower opening in each of its atoms to >all that she shines back beauty to. Yet someplace, everywhere, their is >a One, or something, or nothing, that is behind the meaning of the >perfect flower that is the same as the one behind the not so perfect one >also. The sea refuses no river... >May we dance eternally, Antoine Om Namo Naaraayanaaya (I bow to God in Man) Linda Linda Callanan wrote: > > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Dear Antoine: > > Any words together can become a mantra and the meaning of the words will > vary from one person to another due to their own perception. However, there > is a 'science' to mantra that goes beyond the meaning of the words. Each > letter of the Sanskrit alphabet corresponds to one of the petals on the 7 > main chakras giving specific mantras the ability to work beyond the mind > they....actually work one one's entire being. > > Just some fun mantra facts. > > Namaste, > Linda > > >>>>>> Antoine <carrea > > >Taking a bunch of words, like let's say: > > >"Waiting for the time where we will be alone together." > > >is sentence will usually mean for one: > > >One and the other, like a couple, waiting for the moment when we will > be without the many others, alone away from the others." > > This same first sentence may also mean for One: > > "One with the other, together, waiting for the time where there is no > more other, or others, alone eternally together." > > "The sea refuses no rivers, ever so lonely", Sheila Chandra. > > Words or Mantra? > > Who really knows how they relate in meaning? > > All and each word may have the same meaning. > > Playing with words, > > Antoine>>>>>>>>>> All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 1999 Report Share Posted November 22, 1999 Linda Callanan wrote: > Language is so important no matter whether spoken or silent. I think of > that childhood ditty "sticks and stones may break my bones but words can > never harm me" and realize how untrue such a concept is......we forget > physical pain rather quickly but years after hurtful words have been uttered > the pain can still be felt. It is an important step in ahimsa to not use > our words violently. Sometimes i look at words, as the tip of an iceberg. They are linked in so many ways to the roots of our being. The violence in them will sometimes freeze the surface of the sea, so the roots of the iceberg under the surface are not felt or exchanged in words between two people. When two people met, often the surface of their being is frozen like the surface of a sea, from so many past wounds, so they simply exchange words on the surface. They need a special island of warm waters to explore this deep touching again, to open their wound, for them to be healed. They are many ways to create those islands, as clearing the fields for spiritual harvest. The emotional structure around the word also may have great influence. Is it sealed in the chaotic inertia of anger and ice-olation, or those it flow swiftly like the eye of Shiva, that strikes like the thunderbolt this false inertia that needs to open to let the wounds breath and heal. Examples among many, structures where there is none really. I remember the use of the word "thunder" by my father and his clear use of emotions. When my sisters and me where little, and making to much noise playing, instead of saying something like: "Please shut up, I want to read". He would simply say "Thunder! (Tonerre)" and look at us in the eyes directly in silence. The three children would stop what ever they where doing, when we heard that sound/word, as if a real thunderbolt had just crush down the house. His message was clear, in words and emotionally, it left no trace... Once the effect of the sound had passed, a few second latter, we would go back to our playing, making a bit less nose, knowing an ear was hearing us, and he could go back to his reading without guilt and all that stuff that create ice over the sea of our being. What is a word may come to mean for others what is a sensation or an emotion, who knows? All the icebergs may have the same root... Om Mani Padme Hum Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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